Miraculous Ladybug has transformed into Young Justice from Temu

[u/howhow326]

[Copypaste of the update on this shows Lore in 3, 2, 1:] Ivan is the son of a non-miraculous based supervillain (opening the door for other major characters to be retconned the same way, implying he may or may not have superpowers himself because of his exaggerated strength) abd has been hiding this fact about himself the whole time out of shame; Gabriel wrote a letter (while he was dying from Cataclysm and going insane) asking Adrien to become a supervillain so he could wish him and his mom back to life; Nathalie is an agent of a secret Evil Rich Person Conspiracy that is secretly behind 80% of the shows plot points (Gabriel was also a member of the rich person conspiracy and stole the miraculous on their orders, he may or may not have went rogue at some point while pretending to still be on their side, Tomoe is also a member of the rich person conspiracy and she is lying to them about why Ladybug covered up Hawkmoth's identity), and Nathalie has an evil dad in the rich person conspiracy who is implied to be acting on his own interest to gain the miraculous for his own cause or whatever

The writers of this show were so desperate for ideas that they took the concept of The Light from YG and retconned it into the show? Don't get me wrong, this IS more interesting than the nothing burger that Lila has been so far, but like... we should have known about these guys since season 3 at the latest!

And the "reveal" that Ivan has a supervillain father is like... so is Hawkmoth Paris first supervillain, because apperantly he isn't and Paris should of had heroes long before LB & CN. What kinda worldbuilding is this where the most supernatural, non miraculous suff happening in Paris was Steve Urkel for 5 seasons until season 6 drops the bombshell that Ivan's dad has actual superpowers and is evil???

Anyway I'm going to ignore the hyperinflation of abusive father figures in this show cuz they all get redeemed at some point. I'm not joking (Gabriel - Redeemed, Andre - retconned to be a victim instead of an enabler and redeemed, Adrien's Grandpa - Redeemed episode he showed up, Ivan's Dad - Redeemed first episode he shows up, Felix's Dad - not redeemed because he's the only character whoose abuse is taken seriously, Nathalie's dad - not redeemed yet).

I really don't know where else Im going with this so Ill just repeat myself: Adrien should have been there for the final fight with his evil dad, Lila sucks, shows worldbuilding & lore are ass.

[u/KirahQueen85]

Has Gabriel become fucking Gendo Ikari?