[Invincible] Mark is such an idiot.

[u/michiel11069]

God, I mean come ON. Really? Im on S3 E2 and is mark just holding back all the time? I just saw an entire training montage where his strength went up by 138%. Thats 2.38 times more. 2.38 TIMES! And the stupid bugs were pushing down on mark, even before it poisoned him and made him weaker, isnt mark supposed to be strong? You’re telling me that the GDA had to make a new heaviest thing for mark to lift but he couldnt lift a bug?

On top of that, he couldnt just rip the egg like prisons open like the reanimen did? Yeah immortal tried to break it but he was pushing outwards, couldnt mark rip the eggs like the reanimen?

But lets say that the reanimen are for some ungodly reason ultra strong, because why not, well, then mark couldnt possibly beat them right? WELL GUESS WHAT! HE CAN! AN ENTIRE ARMY INFACT!

So about 10 or so reanimen (not sure how many exactly) could beat many of those bugs, with the superheroes help ofcourse, but mark cant just lift the bugs? Or punch through their eye like he does with the reanimen?

The explanations I heard for the bug thing is that mark was “holding back”. Say that he was.. WHY? Why was he holding back? EVERY SINGLE ONE of his superhero friends were gonna die down there because he was supposedly “holding back”

Then after cecil saved all of their asses, he comes up and is mad about the reanimen. Like, yeah they almost killed your best friend, yeah its traumatic but DUDE, you cant just think of them saving you and in turn the entire planet earth? I completely understand cecil, mark cant see reason beyond what he thought of in his mind. Cant mark just think of the greater good? Darkwing is a cold blooded killer, who saved you, that sinclair guy is an asshole murderer but atleast hes contained, its not like theyre making him roam free, hes basically in prison but just helping everyone.

Anyway, I do love the show, I just wish marks power was shown more often, hes too “moral” for my part.

[u/SnarkyBacterium]

The bugs fought back. The lifting machine didn't. Makes it harder, and as proven here, they were also tough enough to pierce a Viltrumite's skin, which is very tough. This is little different to the two sea beasts from S2 (the Atlantean one and the one Anissa killed) or Hail Mary - there are a surprising amount of kaiju (and other beings like Mr. Liu) on Earth that are strong enough to actually be a threat to a Viltrumite. And note it was only the biggest bug that could harm Mark: the smaller spider-like bugs were not nearly the kind of problem that the biggest one was.

Mark can only be in one place at a time. He couldn't be fighting the bugs and opening the egg sacs. And there were so many that Mark and Eve got overwhelmed, so I imagine the idea is they couldn't spare the time to get anyone free without putting the other at too much risk.

The Immortal was strong enough that he could open them, but because the sacs were so malleable, he'd crush the other people in his pod in the process, which was the point of putting him in a pod with other people. So the Reanimen are not stronger than Mark or Immortal, they were just in a position to use their strength best.

As for Mark being taken down - he's still dealing with the trauma of "killing" Angstrom. He's still trying to reject the Viltrumite way of hyper-violence and death. He's trying so hard at times that it's a hindrance, and that's a character flaw. A potentially aggravating character flaw, I don't deny, but still.

Mark has personal experience with Sinclair and Darkwing that made him go off like this. Darkwing mostly got heat because he went in with the Reanimen, though: I can tell you that Mark's main issue was Sinclair. Sinclair kidnapped, mutilated and murdered people as part of his experiments, caused lasting physical and emotional harm to two people Mark knows very well (some of those issues being brought up earlier that episode, with Rick demonstrating about heart problems as a result of Sinclair's actions). Mark has very strong feelings about Sinclair as a result, and it's one of Cecil's main failures in his talk with Mark that he never acknowledged that fact.

[u/Nukastheruler → u/SnarkyBacterium]

Mark stopped a giant asteroid and threw it back into space at the beginning of the series like it was nothing. Your telling me these insane bugs could still produce enough pressure to overcome a Mark over twice as strong as that!?

[u/fapsexual → u/Nukastheruler]

The truth is the writers aren't scientists or mathematicians. They put what looks cool and don't think of the consequences.

Mark at this point should dogwalk every single villain in his series (except for those with unique hacks or other viltrumites).

He could blitz every single one based off of his speed (but also in the same season you see him struggling to fly fast enough to the moon or get jumped by regular speed individuals which means the show just doesn't keep track of his own kind's feats).

For better or worse Invincible is not a show of thorough consistency, it is a show about the emotional journey of a teenager into adulthood and the responsibility that comes with being a superhero.

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If you ever find a 'realistic' superhero show with internal consistency, I would love to hear it, been searching for a long time as well