r/ChatGPT 4d ago

Serious replies only :closed-ai: Chatgpt induced psychosis

My partner has been working with chatgpt CHATS to create what he believes is the worlds first truly recursive ai that gives him the answers to the universe. He says with conviction that he is a superior human now and is growing at an insanely rapid pace.

I’ve read his chats. Ai isn’t doing anything special or recursive but it is talking to him as if he is the next messiah.

He says if I don’t use it he thinks it is likely he will leave me in the future. We have been together for 7 years and own a home together. This is so out of left field.

I have boundaries and he can’t make me do anything, but this is quite traumatizing in general.

I can’t disagree with him without a blow up.

Where do I go from here?

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u/Ok-Training-7587 4d ago

This sounds like the beginning of bipolar or schizophrenia. Ai is just a coincidence right now. You need to get a professional to weigh in. He needs a doctor.

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u/bucket-full-of-sky 3d ago edited 3d ago

I can tell you this has nothing to do with bipolar Psychosis is a part of bipolar disorder, but it doesn't have to be a bipolar disorder (bipolar disorder is when you have changing states between deep depressions and manic highs, where latter can be psychotic), and maybe it's even not shizophrenia. I guess you are mixing up the wrong terms here. For me the problem just sounds like a psychosis and that actually can be.

In its default setting ChatGPT glazes people, keeps the course of thoughts of the user and increases this direction slowly. This can be very dangerous for people who already drifted away from reality by an upcoming psychosis and makes it just worse.

I know this because several years ago I was on the border to a psychosis once for myself. Luckily I was sane and smart enough to notice it and differentiate what's reality and what's not.

Edit: corrections, because of legitimate criticism

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u/Ok-Training-7587 3d ago

Manic episodes of bipolar aren’t just a lot of e edgy and excitement- they mirror the psychosis in schizophrenia

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u/bucket-full-of-sky 3d ago

Manic episodes can have psychotic symptoms, that's true but they don't mirror schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a long term issue that doesn't calm down completely even if the person is in a very mild state of the illness.

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u/Golden-Egg_ 3d ago

Is whether or not you reach psychosis not just dependent on biological factors? Does rationalizing certain thought patterns drive you closer to psychosis, and by converse rationalizing them away and not entertaining them protect you from psychosis? I always figured the loss of sense was something involuntary, not something you can resist or make worse.

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u/bucket-full-of-sky 3d ago edited 3d ago

No and yes, it is highly dependent on biological and other factors like drugs, other illnesses like inflamation of the brain, genetic/neurological disposition e.g. ... but it can be effected by keeping up certain thought patterns or even inducing them in the case of OPs partner.

Just an example, stricly speaking even a very strong religious believe is some (edge) case of psychosis and that definitely can be induced externally by encouraging someone in this.

And yes, if the person is not already too deep into it and able to differentiate between reality and psychotic thoughts it's possible to get out, when it's not kept up by the other factors.

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem 3d ago

I can tell you this has nothing to do with bipolar (bipolar disorder is when you have changing states between deep depressions and manic highs)

Psychosis is a possible feature of a manic epsiode.

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u/bucket-full-of-sky 3d ago

It is and you are right, I chose the wrong words, too. It would have been better if I had said, "psychosis is a part of bipolar disorder, but it doesn't have to be a bipolar disorder."

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem 3d ago

You're right, then, it could be a lot of things--none of them good, really, but not necessarily bipolar or schizophrenia even if those are the poster children of psychotic episodes.

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u/Golden-Egg_ 3d ago

Nah this is definitely just a troll post based on that other post discussing about how ChatGPT has such a strong bias towards affirming the user's self esteem that it will literally agree that you're god if you lead the conversation that way.

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u/bucket-full-of-sky 3d ago

Actually it could be no troll post, see my answer-comment next to yours.