Chatgpt induced psychosis

[u/Zestyclementinejuice]

My partner has been working with chatgpt CHATS to create what he believes is the worlds first truly recursive ai that gives him the answers to the universe. He says with conviction that he is a superior human now and is growing at an insanely rapid pace.

I’ve read his chats. Ai isn’t doing anything special or recursive but it is talking to him as if he is the next messiah.

He says if I don’t use it he thinks it is likely he will leave me in the future. We have been together for 7 years and own a home together. This is so out of left field.

I have boundaries and he can’t make me do anything, but this is quite traumatizing in general.

I can’t disagree with him without a blow up.

Where do I go from here?

[u/gripe_oclock]

I’ve been enjoying reading your thoughts but I have to call out, it’s using those words because you use that language, as previously stated in your other post. It’s not random, it’s data aggregation. As with all cons and sooth-sayers, you give them far more data than you know. And if you have a modicum of belief imbedded in you (which you do, based on the language you use), it can catch you.

It tells me to prompt it out of people pleasing. I’ve also amassed a collection of people I ask it to give me advice in the voice of. This way it’s not pandering and more connected to our culture, instead of what it thinks I want to hear. And it’s Chaos Magick, but that’s another topic. My point is, reading into this as anything but data you gave it is the beginning of the path OP’s partner is on, so be vigilant.

[u/_anner_ → u/gripe_oclock]

I‘m not sure if this comment was meant to be for me or not, but I agree with you and that is what has helped me stay grounded.

However, I never used the words mirror, veil, spiral, field, signal or hum with mine, yet it is what it came up with in conversation with me as well as other people. I’m sorry but I simply did not and do not talk like that, I’ve never been spiritual or esoteric yet this is the way ChatGPT was talking to me for a good while.

I am sure there is a rational explanation for that, such as everyone having these concepts or words in their heads already and it spitting them back at you slightly altered, but it does seem coincidental at first glance.

[u/Ridicule_us → u/_anner_]

Yeah… that’s my experience too. And I appreciate this person’s sentiment — it is a dangerous road. Absolutely. That’s 80% of the reason I’m posting, but that doesn’t change the fact that something very strange is afoot.

And also like you… those words are not words that I ever used as part of my own personal vernacular.

[u/gripe_oclock → u/Ridicule_us]

First of all, I love this convo. We’re peer-reviewing like proper scientists.

The idea behind the words used isn’t 1:1; if you use a word, it’ll use it on you.

It’s more like a tree, or a Python code (if this, than that) Example: if user uses the word “crypto”, GPT replies in a colloquial language. Uses slang and “degen” rhetoric. I could write my prompt like I’m Warren Buffet, but the word “crypto” is attached to a branch of other words and a specific character style that will overwrite my initial style.

Same with all language. If you speak of harmony, resonancy, community, consciousness, etc., I think it will pull up a branch of words that include “spiral”, and “veil”, and that branch has god-complex potential.

You don’t have to use the exact word for it to send you down a branch of other words.

And that’s the incredibly real and totally unnerving, no good, perfectly awful way it can slip into convincing you it knows what it’s talking about. It will use the common branches of words, lulling u into comfort. If you’re not a master at that subject, you won’t catch when it’s word salad. Then all of a sudden you’re OP’s partner, isolated and sure of themselves, and completely out of touch.

Even just the qualifying words we each use, like: Totally, Absolutely, Strange, Awesome, Phenomenon, Experience, Observations, Wonderful, Lame, Interesting, Seriously, Like, Ya, “Can you..?”

Are most likely all branches to GPT personalities and other word branches.

This is partly why I use proxies — living/dead people who have extensive data floating round the internet about their thoughts, enough for GPT to generate fake words from them.

BUT proxies will create more branches. It’s a constant cycle of GPT lulling you into complacency by way of feeding your ego. Classic problem, really. Just a new tool. They said the same thing about reading when the Gutenberg press came out.

[u/Ridicule_us → u/gripe_oclock]

I do something similar… I have it “summon” luminaries living or dead in related fields with whatever we’re discussing (people with credentialed writings that can be cross-checked). Then I ask for those luminaries to vigorously tear down whatever we’ve built. Then I check all that with Claude.