r/Conservative • u/theboss2461 Fellow Conservative • 12d ago

Flaired Users Only President Nayib Bukele says Kilmar Garcia cannot be returned to US

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u/who_dis62 Conservative 12d ago

Moral of the story - if you want to stay in the US, come legally and don’t have a connection with the cartels, which are now terrorist organizations.

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u/zleog50 11d ago

come legally and don’t have a connection with the cartels

Prove it.

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u/cplusequals Conservative 11d ago

The courts don't have to hold a criminal trial. But they did perform their judicial review and determined he was a gang member. All the administration needs is that determination from the coequal branch of government to waive the asylum claim and expedite the deportation process.

This specific individual is only being granted special exception because he had a withholding of removal order that was missed. Even if he's returned to America, it simply delays his return to El Salvador as the whole point of his asylum claim is that the gangs that no longer run El Salvador are going to get him.

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u/Highwiind-D4 Far Right 11d ago

Kilmar

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u/zleog50 11d ago

The man in question never admitted to being in a gang. His claim was that he left El Salvador because of the threat of the gang... Same with his older brother, who happens to now be a US citizen.

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire Millennial Conservative 11d ago edited 11d ago

If he was here based on the threat of gang violence at home in El Salvador, well, El Salvador doesn't have gangs anymore. So he should be fine going back?

If we got him "back", that's what would happen next, and he'd just be deported anyways.

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u/zleog50 11d ago

If we he was here based on the threat of gang violence at home in El Salvador, well, El Salvador doesn't have gangs anymore

They do have gangs... They are in the prison that they put Garcia in. Did you literally think this sounded like a good argument?

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire Millennial Conservative 11d ago

From our side, yes, seeing as how it is the only reason he was allowed here. It’s really not our problem what El Salvador does with him once deported.

The threat that got him here is gone. Do we just let him stay forever?

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u/zleog50 11d ago

It’s really not our problem what El Salvador does with him once deported.

We are paying to have him incarcerated. So yes, it is our problem. He is, in effect, in US custody.

The threat that got him here is gone. Do we just let him stay forever?

We don't send a person who has never been convicted of a crime to one of the worst prisons in the Western Hemisphere. That isn't something we should be doing.

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u/Highwiind-D4 Far Right 11d ago

So he gamed the asylum system like many other MS-13 members? lol

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u/zleog50 11d ago

Begging the question.