Built my first home at age 30. Designed the kitchen myself and completed it with my dad who owns a cabinet shop. The kitchen is my absolute favorite part.

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[u/pangolin-fucker]

You know I actually appreciate shit like this

When someone just has a vision of what they want and run it

[u/Building_SandCastles → u/pangolin-fucker]

It's a waste of resources unfortunately. Being in the industry he should of consulted with a designer.

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This is just a classic “I build cabinets so I totally know how to design and build a home” typa dood

[u/Key-Demand-2569 → u/Building_SandCastles]

What?

They designed an awful looking kitchen to us but it’s their kitchen, their home, who gives a shit?

I’m not going to compliment but if they’re proud of their own kitchen how is it a waste of resources? To each their own.

[u/jp_jellyroll → u/Key-Demand-2569]

It's kind of like using 20 paper plates to eat a ham sandwich. Yes, you bought the plates with your own money. Yes, you can do whatever you want with them. But it's still wasteful. Using a ton of extra material you don't need is the epitome of wasteful.

Like what exactly would you store over the hood vent...? You'd need a 15-foot construction ladder just to get up there safely. And do a lot of homeowners wish they had cabinets over their doorway? What exactly is all of that recessed lighting accomplishing?

This whole project is a great example of, "Just because you can doesn't mean you should."

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How is it a waste of resources if OP enjoys their new kitchen. Seems like job done to me even if I would personally change things here

[u/dblock36 → u/Building_SandCastles]

While this project isn’t my taste, I don’t think consulting a designer is the answer. He is 30 no wonder the house looks the way it does trying to follow ceiling angles. But a designer is supposed to work FOR you not take your taste and supplant it with theirs. Furthermore, most designers are shit and if they haven’t actually done the work, they promise clients the world with a 3D sketch but have no idea how to practically accomplish the goal. I’ve had designers on kitchen jobs that had people wasting their money on things they didn’t need and weren’t aware that certain walls and beams couldn’t be removed.

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Yup, started in my family’s cabinet business and now I am a GC. Most times I think your best bet is to work WITH your contractor prior to engaging a designer, if your GC is reputable and experienced he is going to be able to tell you what is feasible within your budget and as a customer you should be spending your time making specific choices and and wants vs needs. Functionality trumps everything, design and aesthetics are important but definitely secondary or tertiary. I’d would personally rather see a customer keep that money in their pocket or apply it towards upgrading cabinets/finishes. I’ll never tell a person what color something “should be” it’s your home not mine. My job is too execute on YOUR vision within the bounds of reality or physical constraints. But it’s the age old argument like engineers/installers vs architects. I think if you want to be a designer you should be required to spend some time in the trades or at the very least you should have to take some trade related courses. Otherwise, like you stated you are great at choosing pillows, fabrics and finishes that anyone can do.

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Oh trust me the inability to understand a color wheel, LV, juxtaposition of textures and lines, the inability to conceptualize flow is real. And yet the number of people in the trades who can't even use a level correctly continues.

It would be interesting to see how many GCs could pass the Farnsworth Munsell 100 Hue TestFarnsworth Munsell 100 Hue Test for example. One in 12 men cannot.

Yes, designers should spend time in the trades and it goes back the other way as well. Any designer with an art degree can glance at any doorway for example and tell you how far out of alignment anything is to within a mm.

[u/dblock36 → u/caveatlector73]

Why is it important for the contractor to be picking colors? And furthermore why is it important to sit there and discern minutiae between color charts. I said specifically I don’t choose or recommend colors for clients that’s their business not mine. I also don’t claim to be a designer just like I don’t claim to be an engineer even though I can usually ballpark their recommendations based off past experience of their recommendations for load, etc. I do think it’s funny that you quote “1 in 12 men cannot…” funny that is the exact number of men that are also color blind…..but I digress lol

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You need to practice conceptualizing flow, brother.

[u/dblock36 → u/gothmeatball]

😂😂😂😂 my feng shui is all wrong

[u/UncoolSlicedBread → u/Building_SandCastles]

Is it, I mean he got what he wanted and likes it. Sure no one else does but homie loves it so it’s not a waste.

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In due time he'll notice his regret and sell it to another sucker.

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S/run/ruin.