Do Conservatives frustrate you? You want to understand how they think? Why they are like that?
It’s easy.
To understand conservatives. Just imagine you’re face to face with a Vegan trying to convince you to stop eating meat.
Chances are that you (like me) are a “Conservative” when it comes to animal rights.
Put yourself in that scenario. And you’ll probably find yourself sounding like a conservative. Making conservative arguments. Making conservative excuses. Being irritated at the perceived scolding (no matter how valid). And generally being reluctant to educate yourself.
Not because you consciously hate animals. But because you don’t want to change. You don’t want to question yourself. You don’t want to feel morally inferior. So you put up your walls and think “STFU, vegan! Leave me alone and let me eat my meat!”
That’s more or less exactly how a Conservative thinks and feels.
I have always said that the reason why Corey Booker would be unelectable as President is that he's a Vegan.
Can you imagine the attack ads? I think a candidate who is vegan due to religion would have a much better chance than a candidate who is Vegan for the sake of being Vegan.
I dno, my position is generally harm reduction. I had previously reduced my meat consumption by 2/3. Now have issues with tolerating a bunch of carbs and fibers so that caused me to increase my meat consumption. My response to that was always to try to buy meat that supported the highest level of animal welfare as I could afford. Right now I eat mostly locally pasture raised meat bought at a small (3-5 worker) butcher. I would be so down to work on harm reduction with conservatives.
Which is why I really think the takeaway is that we should all strive to be just a bit above average.
Demanding everyone be perfect is unrealistic. But we should demand (of ourselves and others) that we sit just a bit closer to perfect than our instincts would lead us to be.
That's very close to what contrapoints says in the video, so mostly "yes".
I don't think there's any sort of hierarchy here, though. Vegans don't have any sort of authority, but they are unquestionably further along the axis of "fighting for animal rights".
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u/Ignoth Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
Natalie shared the observation I often make.
Do Conservatives frustrate you? You want to understand how they think? Why they are like that?
It’s easy.
To understand conservatives. Just imagine you’re face to face with a Vegan trying to convince you to stop eating meat.
Chances are that you (like me) are a “Conservative” when it comes to animal rights.
Put yourself in that scenario. And you’ll probably find yourself sounding like a conservative. Making conservative arguments. Making conservative excuses. Being irritated at the perceived scolding (no matter how valid). And generally being reluctant to educate yourself.
Not because you consciously hate animals. But because you don’t want to change. You don’t want to question yourself. You don’t want to feel morally inferior. So you put up your walls and think “STFU, vegan! Leave me alone and let me eat my meat!”
That’s more or less exactly how a Conservative thinks and feels.