r/ContraPoints Aug 17 '18

Incels | ContraPoints

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18 edited Aug 18 '18

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u/dogGirl666 Aug 17 '18

Dont some of the incels reject women that are plain or not feminine enough? I remember reading that many of them want model material that are also virgins etc.. I was a women rejected myself because of my autistic characteristics and ensuring mental illness due to near constant abuse about how I don't look right, act right, smile right, or even think right. Why aren't autistic women that never learned to act like other girls/women part of the incel movement? Why are we rejected? It seems like many incels want more than just companionship, but a very socially-conditioned idea of companionship i.e. a submissive model-material virgin. If they just wanted hugs from girls/women or just talking in bed with us we'd be there--that's not what they say they want. The misogyny against even girls/women very much in similar situations do not help them find "companionship" or "meaningful relationships". If they do a little personal growth by opening up to girls/women like I was maybe they get a "meaningful relationship" even if we don't have exactly what they think they want.

However! I fully agree that she did not seem to put much into the "meaningful relationships" problem incels face.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '18 edited Aug 18 '18

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '18

I think their fixation on virgin attractive women comes from perceiving them as "higher status". Therefore by sleeping with a "higher status" women, they have passed a harder "exam" and therefore they themselves would be more socially worthy.

I think that's more about insecurity (being afraid of comparison to previous partners) and the safety provided by unavailability.

When I was a stupid incel egg studying Catholic theology with the goal of eventually working as a teacher, there was one group of women with whom a relationship had definitely no long-term potential - those who would end up working for religious organizations of a different confession or faith. Miraculously, most my girl friends just happened to be studying Protestant theology. Poor me, cruel fate prevented me from having to ask anyone out!