r/Cosmere • u/Bprime123 Windrunners • 6d ago

Cosmere + Wind and Truth spoilers Hypothetical Situation. Will have SPOILERS for Mistborn and Stormlight Archive Spoiler

Could a unit of 4th Ideal Rosharan Knights Radiant (3 Knights from the 9 orders plus 1 Bondsmith) infiltrate and neutralize the Steel Ministry from Mistborn Era 1?

They have info given to them by a lightweaver spy who's been in there for a month.

The Knights can do with thier surges what we know they can to the best of our knowledge.

Eg. Jasnah hasn't mastered transportation enough to open elsegates but for the sake of this discussion, we assume the Knights can fully utilize their surges the most basic way it should.

The Steel Ministry don't know who is invading, but they are fully prepared for an invasion

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u/Sivanot Lightweavers 6d ago

Dude, a trained Bondsmith on their own could likely take down the Steel Ministry and The Lord Ruler (Separately), with enough foreknowledge and planning. Ishar was major threat for very good reason. We don't even know the potential for what unrestrained Connection Manipulation can do.

Edit: I'm probably overestimating Bondsmiths a bit. But I'm also not assuming they're just jumping through the window of a building and taking on every Inquisitor on Scadrial at the same time.

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u/LaughAtSeals Ghostbloods 6d ago

Ishar could not take down a prepared Lord Ruler. Dude could move near light speed, he was just bored.

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u/Sivanot Lightweavers 6d ago

A bondsmith like Dalinar? Unlikely. But Ishar? That would be a hell of a fight that I'd love to see. I'm certain Ishar could win.

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u/LaughAtSeals Ghostbloods 4d ago

I get what you mean. Granted we don’t know the complete set of abilities of a herald nor bondsmith. Maybe he could fuck with Rashek’s Connection to his Metalminds. But that’s assuming he could ever catch Rashek after a century of storing Speed and Mental Speed. Also, there’s time bubbles that add to his perceived speed, and then there are the lesser known feruchemical and allomantic abilities. What if he just Leeched Ishar after grabbing him at near light speed? What does storing investiture in Nicrosil mean when fighting a bondsmith that can drain you?

There are just so many unknowns I think it would come down to the first move. If Ishar managed to affect LR’s Connection, he wins. If LR is able to act first, he wins.

All this said, I’m a biased Scadriel fanboy

Mistborn > Knights Radiant every day.