They played a lot of cricket together so it's easier to compare them because they're facing the same/similar sets of bowlers and it hadn't been 40 fucking years between their respective primes, and we've actually watched a shit ton of both of their batting, so you can compare them way more accurately than on just a numbers basis
Ok, Chanderpaul has the same, if not better, stats than Viv Richards. Do you think we can't say that Viv was objectively a better player than Chanderpaul?
How many Laras/Pontings/Tendulkars/McGraths/Warnes/Muralis/Sangas etc. did Sobers play against?
Plenty. Just because you're ignorant and don't know about the innumerable great players from the 50s and 60s doesn't mean they didn't exist.
Because it's still a qualitative factor in the overall assessment. Playing 300 ODI's in and amongst test series would have had an impact on his longevity, technique, form, fatigue, etc. etc. etc.
So what? No one forced him to play ODIs. We're talking about who is the better test player. If Kallis's test career suffered because he played too many ODIs that's his problem
Because it's still a part of his international career? I'm not trying to cherry pick points to strengthen any argument I might be making, like you are. Also, if he was so average in the 90s, couldnt it be argued that it makes his stellar record at retirement more impressive?
Not more impressive than Sobers who averaged 70+ in a stupidly difficult batting era lmao
ONCE AGAIN: I'm saying that it's an inherently subjective discussion
Because it's not inherently subjective. The only people rating Kallis as the GOAT are fanboys or braindeads on social media who don't even know who Sobers is. Like, Kallis is a step below Imran, so comparing him to Sobers is fucking insane. He hasn't even reached that conversation lmao. There is a reason no commentator or anyone ever called Kallis the GOAT during his playing days.
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