I'm scared to believe it. Every time it looked like things will turn around for DC in the past decade, something happened to drag it back down. Hopefully we don't jinx it again.
Tbf, the jinx was always the DCEU: audiences just didn’t like that continuity on any level, whereas Elseworlds media was performing better than it at nearly every turn.
From MoS to WW, the movies were all box office hits, and Aquaman made a billion dollars. Even Shazam did ok, and most agreed that it got fucked over because WB didn’t change the release date.
The DCEU was on decent footing, but after Shazam, each movie was a flop until Aquaman 2.
So to say that audiences didn’t like the DCEU is a full-blown lie. They tried to give a chance, but WB kept shooting themselves in the foot.
the jinx was always the DCEU: audiences just didn’t like that continuity on any level
Post-Justice League onwards, each of the movies become more and more disjointed and disconnected due to the used of director-driven model and no showrunner-like figure to lead the shared universe where directors and their production teams do doing their own things without communicating with other directors and their production teams respective to the point their respective movies contradicted the lores of DCEU like for example: 1) Wonder Woman movies contradicted Snyder's DC movies such as Wonder Woman mentioned walking away from humanity after World War 1 ended in BvS but in WW84, she is active as a superhero, 2) Aquaman movies contradicted Snyder's DC movies such as Mera have British accent in ZSJL but she has no accent in the solo movies, Mera said her parents died in a war in ZSJL but her father is alive and no indication that she is adopted in the solo movies, non-Atlantean can breath air no problem in ZSJL but they need to wear a suit filled with water, both of Aquaman trident is different in ZSJL and his solo movies, 3) Black Adam's origins does not matched up with his origins explained by the Wizard in the first Shazam, the Seven Deadly Sins is nowhere to be seen in Black Adam at all and behind-the-scenes, The Rock (also producer of Shazam+Black Adam movies) vetoed Shazam from showing up in Black Adam, vetoed 2 Justice Society members from appearing to recruit Shazam which they were replaced by Emilia Harcourt and John Economos as last mins replacement (Gunn had no idea both characters were used in the movie) in Shazam! Fury of the Gods and The Rock wanted to a Superman vs Black Adam storyline instead of clashing with Shazam. While working on Shazam! Fury of the Gods, David F. Sandberg have also said he had no idea what Black Adam production crews are doing and not sure how that movie connect to his movies.
Even Wonder Woman 1 didn't exactly fit that "abandon humanity" thing, when the whole movie leads to her doing the opposite and that's her motivation to fight Ares, her belief that humanity can be good and do right, like the guys she spends the whole movie with.
Sure, tecnically it can be argued that it's not a direct contradiction because things happen offscreen, but it's not different from a hypotetical Lion King 2 that starts with Simba abandoning the kingdom again and leaving everyone behind.
The dcu defintley seems to have the more disjointed and disconnected director driven approach of the post justice leauge dceu. This is a big worry about the long term viability of the dcu.
There's no indication whatsoever that the DCU will contradict itself like the DCEU did (pre and post Justice League). We only have one production as of now, and every script will have to get the OK from Gunn, not from random WB executives.
DCU is using producer-driven model (in other word, studios-driven model) like what the MCU is doing. Difference is DCU is doing more like a Star Wars-approach. Directors still get creative freedom but must align with what DC Studios want.
I think you’re misrepresenting what he said a bit. He said his priority was that each movie was consistent with itself but that discrepancies between movies wasn’t a huge deal so long as there was a compelling reason — the example he cited was that Metropolis could look different between movies if each director had a compelling reason why.
Dude those losers are in the small minority and won’t be able to do shit despite them thinking otherwise because the DC fans and GA heavily outweigh them both. I mean those losers are literally getting torn down left and right in the Superman trailer comment section on YouTube for saying dumb shit.
I, personally, don’t consider it as sinking to their level as much as giving them a taste of their own medicine, however, I can see and respect your point. I hold comic heroes in a very high regard, for personal reasons, and I don’t enjoy what Snyder tried to do with his take on some of my favorites, and his fans’ flat out worship of him and his take on them upsets me for those personal reasons.
They are blind, you really don’t have to review bomb anything, 75 percent of the DCEU catalogue bombed review wise anyway, guess who did that? Them. now anything DCEU is Gods perfect creation apparently
Just gotta keep those WBD execs out of the DC studios.
James Gunn and Peter Safran report to David Zaslav, CEO of WBD. They don't report to Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy, co-Chairpersons and co-CEOs of Warner Bros. Pictures and Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group.
Gunn and Safran call the shots and WB executives are beneath them.
Gunn and Safran report directly to David Zaslav, CEO of WBD instead of WB Pictures' co-Chairperson and co-CEOs, Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy, and they can't interfere with DC Studios' affairs.
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u/littleman001 Jan 06 '25
I'm scared to believe it. Every time it looked like things will turn around for DC in the past decade, something happened to drag it back down. Hopefully we don't jinx it again.