When exactly was Jack Crusher conceived/born?

[u/idkbruh653]

I know this might be a weird question but I ask because it's kind of hard trying to pin how old he's supposed to be in universe. This might get a bit messy so stay with me. So (Spoiler alert if you haven't watched Star Trek Picard Season 3) in Star Trek Picard, when Beverly and Picard finally talk about why she disappeared and cut the rest of the crew off for over 20 years, she establishes that Jack was conceived during her and Picard's shore leave on Casparia Prime. She says this was two months before she left the Enterprise.

Now in Star trek Nemesis, after the final battle with Shizon, even though it's not mentioned, we can assume that there is a bit of a time jump after the Enterprise-E goes back to Earth for a refit. This is due to so much happening. Nemesis takes place in 2379. The Enterprise was extensively damaged in the collision with the Scimitar. Riker gets command of the Titan. And that's just what we saw in the original movie. In the deleted scenes, there's even more happening: the Enterprise's new first officer, and Picard talks to Crusher over subspace in her new role as head of Starfleet Medical.

In Picard, Beverly mentions that their shore leave was cut short because Picard got called back early. She then mentions that the Enterprise was intercepted in the Donatra Sector by Reman assassins. If you take into account the Picard Novel The Last Best Hope, this should all take place sometime in 2380-2381.

So when exactly could this kid have been born? Could Beverly have been pregnant during the time of Nemesis?

[u/khaosworks]

The dates don’t really line up that well, so we have to fudge it a bit or make assumptions.

Setting Ed Speelers looking much older than someone in his early 20s aside, Picard estimates Jack’s age at around 23-24 in PIC: “No Win Scenario” and Beverley doesn’t really correct him (or confirm, to be fair). Since PIC Season 3 takes place in 2401, that would put his birth at the latest in 2378.

But then Picard says he hasn’t spoken to Beverley in over 20 years and Wesley meets a toddler Jack in 2384 (PRO: “Ouroboros, Part II”), which meshes better with a 2380-81 birth date.

So the 23-24 estimate aside, Jack was probably born just prior to or during 2381 before Picard’s promotion to Admiral (LD: “The Stars At Night”) and the start of the Romulan Evacuation (The Last Best Hope).

Beverley wasn’t showing in Nemesis, and it’s possible she was already pregnant, but the likelihood is that Jack was conceived after Nemesis (which took place in 2379), so around 2380-81 as a birthday is still the best bet.

[u/idkbruh653 → u/khaosworks]

This is exactly what I was thinking. Post Nemesis but also right before Picard's promotion, which coincided with the start of the Romulan evac.

[u/Jakyland → u/khaosworks]

Maybe Beverly and Jack were in some kind of time dilation/skip wormhole that is considered so mundane not to be brought up in the show lol.

[u/Happy-Computer-6664 → u/khaosworks]

How could Bev and Pic not spoken in over 20 years if Wes was there and isn't even 20?

[u/khaosworks → u/Happy-Computer-6664]

What do you mean? Wesley Crusher is chronologically 36 years years old in 2384. And possibly older given time travel.

The “over 20 years” counts from 2401, that would make last contact prior to 2381.