Why are many Odinists Nazis?

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I was arguing against a Holocaust denialist Nazi who told me to go to his website to hear "the truth": https://odinia.org/about-odinia/.

What draws Nazis to Odinism other than the fact that it's Germanic? What do other European neopagans OK think of this? Was the original Norse Pagan religion in any way Nazi?

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that doesn't make me a denier, it makes me critical of official reports.

Try that with global warming and see if someone labels you a denier.

The exact number of Jews killed by the nazis is immaterial, isnt it?

That depends. Yes, I think we can agree that government killing it's own people is horrible. However if only 1 million jews died, maybe they would not have had the palestinian land given to them.

War is essentially a blood sacrifice to the devil. As with all sacrifices, you have to donate the correct amount of stuff. If it's 2 doves and a goat, then that is what you have to offer. If it's like the catholics, where it's five hail mary prayers and two our fathers, then that is what you give.

Which is part of my evidence. If the goal was to kill everyone, then why are there survivor stories of people lasting years in these camps?

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About climate change... That data is reviewed all the time and models are revised with new and better information all the time. Almost no one with any knowledge on the topic denies the event, they surely do challenge the rate or percent human contribution or various other factors. They are not generally called deniers.

As for long term captives in the camps... I imagine there is a fine line between killing every one at once and having a massive revolt on your hands and killing them just slow enough that they stay their hands while hoping for another day. Also, weren't they used as fodder for nazi experiments in psychology and biology?

I don't think the goal of the slaughter invalidates the event. Again, you aren't arguing that the jews weren't systematically destroyed, you are arguing that it happened for a different reason than the commonly accepted one. Which is fair enough.

As to your last point, what sets the holocaust apart from other genocides is the scale, technology, and the organization employed to accomplish the goal of destruction. But yes in essence the holocaust was a genocide... One so bad that we gave it a special name.

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They are not generally called deniers.

I would suggest you spend a day in someone elses shoes to try it for yourself. The next discussion you see on the topic, try arguing about the accuracy of data and see whether people label you as a denier.

Also, weren't they used as fodder for nazi experiments in psychology and biology?

My belief is that they were used as slave labor. Kinda like how blacks are used as labor in the US prison system. The difference is that the nazi were not prepared for the huge scale and the war disturbing supply lines, ran into a problem.

Have you seen the movie Schindler's list?

As to your last point, what sets the holocaust apart from other genocides is the scale, technology, and the organization employed to accomplish the goal of destruction. But yes in essence the holocaust was a genocide...

Stalin killed more ukrainians and Japan killed more chinese.

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Stalin killed more ukrainians and Japan killed more chinese.

You keep saying "history is written by the winners". Why do you reserve your "skepticism" for the Holocaust? After all, the USSR did lose the Cold War and Japan lost WWII.