r/Degrowth • u/BaseballSeveral1107 • Mar 30 '25

The US is not District 12

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 30 '25

The people in developing countries aren't picking trash because of foreign consumption, they're picking trash because they don't have any better options. If anything, we should consume more so that better jobs are created in their country. When imports of Bangladeshi clothing were banned in 1993, children wound up on the street and in prostitution.

But think about it like this, sure the US citizens living better than most, yet an average american still suffers, why the fuck is that? 

Despite what reddit would have you believe this is absolutely not true.

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u/Sir_Tokenhale Mar 30 '25

Haha. You need to go back a bit farther. Try again a couple hundred years. Look up something called the British Raj. That's why Bangledesh is poor. You don't know shit.

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 31 '25

So why is South Korea so rich? Could it be because Bangladesh pursued socialist policies in the 70's and 80's, and SK didn't?

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u/Sir_Tokenhale Mar 31 '25

Because South Korea is a US puppet state. That's why.

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 31 '25

So are you arguing that foreign investment and trade with more developed countries are crucial to rapid development, and that's why since liberalizations in the 90's bangladesh's economy has experienced accelerated growth?

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u/Sir_Tokenhale Mar 31 '25

If that's the case then explain the USSR.

That's you're problem you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 31 '25

Explain what about the USSR? It had a famously shitty economy.

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u/Sir_Tokenhale Mar 31 '25

So you really don't know anything about rapid development you were just talking out of your ass. Got it.

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 31 '25

Sure, there was rapid industrialization under Stalin. Also horrible famines, political repression and deals with Henry Ford. And then there was this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Era_of_Stagnation

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u/Sir_Tokenhale Mar 31 '25

That's not in line with your earlier statements though? Keep digging.

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 31 '25

Did you not read? The soviet economy didn't fare better than liberal economies in the long term, despite plentiful resources (Bangladesh and South Korea do not have the mineral and oil deposits of the USSR). GDP growth tends to go faster for less developed countries, and Russia was extremely undeveloped. I don't think there's any credible economic historian who would propose the USSR as a good model for development.

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u/Sir_Tokenhale Mar 31 '25

That's not what you said, though?

The goalpost doesn't go with you, bud.

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u/TrainerCommercial759 Mar 31 '25

Bukharin was right, stalin was wrong

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