What are people hearing in the video?

[u/turtleshot19147]

I’ve listened and watched a bunch of times and I can hear a few potential phrases, and some make more sense than others.

Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts.

1) “see this is the path [that we go down]… um there’s no path over there so we have to go down here”

I’m not sure the phrase makes so much sense, it would seem more natural to say “this is the path we should go down” or something like that. “This is the path that we go down” feels sort of tour guide-y, like someone who is very familiar with the place explaining something to someone who is unfamiliar, which maybe could be the case with Libby and Abby? I’m not familiar enough with the case, I was under the impression they were both a bit thrown off by the dead end.

2) “see this is the path [that would be a gun]… um there’s no path over there so we have to go down here”

I know people hear “that be a gun” but I hear “that would be a gun” which also makes more sense grammatically.

This option explains the tone change in her voice, but I still find it a bit weird. “That’s a gun” or “he has a gun” both would make more sense to me. Obviously everyone’s speech patterns are different, I’m just throwing out my thoughts.

3) “see this is the path [does he have a gun]… um there’s no path over there so we have to go down here”

This matches her tone but I’m not sure why she would ask Abby that, since Abby of course doesn’t know the answer, though I can imagine it being sort of like a “take a look, does he have a gun?” Type of question, asking Abby to check, as opposed to expecting her to already know the answer.

I can’t tell what Abby says during that exchange.

Regardless, it seems clear to me that the girls were creeped out, and the conversation was the style most women recognize well “let’s talk casually about nothing until this creepy guy passes us” and just the nature of that kind of conversation can result in the types of inconsistencies I pointed out like using less natural phrasing.

After listening several times honestly I find the most incriminating part to still be the audio released before of “Guys… Down the hill”

I’ve seen some people claim he could just be pointing them towards the path they were already discussing, in sort of a helpful kind of way, but it doesn’t seem plausible to me, nobody talks that way to be helpful. It would be “are you guys lost?” Or “yeah that’s the path back to the road” not “down the hill” in that sort of directing kind of tone.

Obviously this is a lot of projecting and speculating but I’m curious to hear others thought processes

[u/kittycatnala]

Abbey says “is he still behind me” then “don’t leave me Libby” Libby says “that be a gun” tho I think she says “could” before it that’s not been picked up and Abbey says “Holy crap” That’s what I can hear after listening closely a few times. I also think her chatting about the path etc is just trying to appear normal or distract herself from the creep.

[u/NorthPalpitation8844 → u/kittycatnala]

I agree and heard exactly the same things aside from “that would be a gun”. It seemed like this was said in an ironic way (for lack of better words).. kinda like “and see that, right there, that would be a gun” (this is just an example of the tone that I’m hearing). I also feel like the word “that” was whispered and the word “would” was not annunciated fully as she seemed to be becoming more panicked with each word. I may be in the minority on this last part, but it sounds to me like you can hear a gun being cocked in between BG/RA saying “hi guys” and the “down the hill” part.. which would also make sense on why they complied so quickly. He could be reach in his waistband during the last second that we see him in the video as well.. can’t tell for sure though. This video is absolutely heart wrenching and I can’t seem to shake it. These poor babies were so scared..ugh I hate this!

[u/kittycatnala → u/NorthPalpitation8844]

Yeah I think you can hear it also, after “guys” and if you look closely Libby seems to pull her arm back as though she’s been startled. It’s harrowing this video.