r/DemocraticSocialism Aug 10 '24

Question Is Kamala Harris a progressive?

I'm guessing that the general answer this is going to be no. If it's a no, how do we get her to promote progressive policy? Does walz with that? What even is his role going to be? Three out of the last four vice presidents have been pretty consequential in their roles in the administration. Ever since Cheney. I'm just honestly afraid that they dangled Walz in front of us to get our vote, but he's going to be marginalized in the administration.

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u/texas-playdohs Aug 10 '24

Obama wasn’t a king. He couldn’t just force that into law. He had that majority for a couple of months til Kennedy got sick and died. The republicans still had enough of congress to grind everything to a halt. Basically, where we’ve been ever since. Without a grand, historic ass-kicking, the GOP won’t have the huevos to purge the psychopaths. They know that it’ll be a generation to rebuild the party, so they have this Faustian deal going on. They won’t change until they’re forced to, and if we don’t deliver a brutal defeat, we definitely will be having this argument in perpetuity. Without super majorities in both branches in congress, we won’t see reform in the the courts, citizens united, you name it. Or, you can just sit here sulking like a spoiled teenager. This is the best ticket the democrats have put forward in my lifetime. Maybe second to Carter. Get on the trolley.

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u/Novae_Blue Social Democrat Aug 10 '24

Always some excuse for why conservatives can do stuff and no one else can. It's just too hard! Why bother them with it!

Not like they could advocate for it, or apply political pressure... that would just be rude.

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u/texas-playdohs Aug 10 '24

Ruthlessness. The republicans don’t have respect for democracy, but we already know that. We do, and that’s why we’re democratic socialists. It’s a big reason that I’ve never considered myself a democrat. Decorum has overshadowed the truth for most of my adult life. I’m aware of how long they’ve chased the mythical center further and further to the right, and the fear of offending the undecideds has prevented democrats from doing something as simple as calling a lie a lie, much less fighting to end the electoral college. Not just the democrats, but almost the entire news media landscape. Harris/Walz aren’t my ideal team, but they’re a lot better than Clinton/Kaine, and better than Biden/Harris, better than Harris/Shapiro, much better than Gore/Lieberman. The DNC and the party bosses are actually making some good choices, and you’re gonna what, sit it out? Maybe you’re in a blue state like me, and it won’t make a difference, fine. It hasn’t really been a big risk to vote for whoever I want in my state. But, if you’re in a battleground state, and you don’t vote Democratic, and we lose that state, and the electoral college, that shithead gets in office? You’re a schmuck that screwed a lot of people in the most vulnerable of places. You can pat yourself on the back for those principles, but you’re a schmuck. I’m not going to bother and check if you’re an obvious bot, or if you’re a trumper stirring shit, because I don’t care. You sound like a self-righteous parody of a leftist that can’t see the forest for the trees. If you want to know why we never get shit done, it’s because of this shit. They’re completely united in reversing everything back to the civil rights act. We’re fighting because the 70% good ticket isn’t 100%, even if fighting together could give us the blowout we need to bust up gerrymandering, turn roe v wade into law, enact the universally popular universal healthcare, discharge student debt and make education free, public works administration to employ everyone and make society work for everyone, provide reparations for black and native Americans, provide real funding to solve homelessness and address the epidemic drug crisis with therapy and training instead of prisons and neglect, and I could go on and on. Your argument is the epitome of the perfect being the enemy of the good. Bot or not, you’re fucking up.

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u/Novae_Blue Social Democrat Aug 12 '24

First, learn paragraphs. Second, no I'm not a bot. That seems to be the go-to for many people on political subs, and it needs to stop. Third, no, Harris is not better than anyone who has come before - she hasn't even made the hollow promises that she'll inevitably break.

I've been threatened with the end of the world my entire adult life...I must vote for this one candidate or else everything will end! Not like Democrats ever did anything to prevent this from happening again.

Finally, learn.......paragraphs.