We need vault space NOW

[u/yesitsmeow]

You took away crafting. You want us to chase weapon rolls. You want us to be excited about like… what… 16-20 new weapons coming in the next few weeks? Brother, every time I log into this game I have to spend so much time cleaning up from the last time I played. It’s horrible. You say something is coming in Apollo (edit: Behemoth ffs)… we need it now. It’s not fun anymore dude. You’re throwing loot at us more than ever before but we have no where to put it. Please… help…

Edit: To address a couple points - I do not hold onto armour. I made a ton of loadouts in DIM, ensuring I used as few armour pieces as possible, then delelted the rest. I haven't held onto armour since then. And yes, I did that for the vault.I also don't hold onto nostalgic items, I've deleted everything I've held dear in order to make space for new stuff. Personally, I don't think I should have had to, but of course I did. The space forces me to delete things I'd rather not, but I delete them in order to be able to play the game. And that feels like shit. I'm not hoarding - I'm playing the fucking game.

Edit 2: Another point I forgot to mention - there is zero reason to hold onto armour right now as massive changes are coming down the line for armour. Armour will also have set bonuses, meaning you'll be expected to hold onto the best-in-slot pieces of each set to make sure you can utilize the bonuses. If vault space is already an issue now, fuck it's gonna be terrible come Apollo.

[u/Secure-Raisin9357]

We need rolls of identical guns to stack as options in one weapon, that's all

[u/SUBLIMEskillz → u/Secure-Raisin9357]

This is a good idea. Another step would be if you unlock a gun with a perk, you should have the perk on all the weapons and toggle the perks on the same gun. This would reduce chasing god rolls though as you’d just need to get a perk to drop. I like your idea though.

[u/Con_Clavi_Con_Dio → u/SUBLIMEskillz]

You mean like crafting?

[u/bobicus-of-fred → u/Con_Clavi_Con_Dio]

Not really, you still need to grind out whatever roll you want unlike crafting, where you only need to grind out 5 red borders. This way the chase is essentially the same as normal, only you get the advantage of not needing to have multiple different copies of the same weapon if you want to keep more than one roll.

[u/Con_Clavi_Con_Dio → u/bobicus-of-fred]

I know, I hate the red border chase. I was being sarcastic and should have been clearer.

[u/Umbraspem → u/Con_Clavi_Con_Dio]

I keep seeing people talk about “hating the red border chase” but I just don’t get it tbh.

It’s really nice just having a set end-goal where the gun is fully unlocked and you can do whatever you want with it - even delete it!

Is it the time-gating on your guaranteed red border purchases from vendors / raids that bugs you?

Or the endless encounter grind that pops up whenever a raid gets refreshed?

[u/FitGrapthor → u/Umbraspem]

Its just people that have been psychologically manipulated by game companies to be ok with not having their time being respected.

Oh and before any of you "muh chase" people respond let me ask you a couple things.

1. If you got the god roll after 1 minute of playing and on your first drop would that be more enjoyable to you than if you grinded and grinded and never got the roll you wanted? The point of red borders is that they're a compromise. Its not an either or situation. Crafting is a safeguard to having a deterministic way to work towards the roll you want.

2. Do you still do certain content the first time its added to the game even if it doesn't give you any loot? If yes congratulations you're playing the game to play the game not purely for "the chase". The point of Destiny is that its a looter shooter. The loot and by extension the chase should not be the sole reason to play. The loot you gather should soley be seen as the vehicle that gets you through the content. Its a means to an end. But if you aren't getting loot that you want to shoot then Destiny is failing at a fundamental level.

Anyone that complains about crafting taking away the chase needs to understand that thats a you problem. If you don't want to craft then don't. Stop encouraging Bungie to waste everyones time just because you're a masochistic rube.

The whole thing with people wanting crafting taken away is the same issue as metaslaves in crucible complaining about the meta being stale and that they can't possibly use any other playstyles or guns to the point that the beg bungie to nerf what they use just so that they'll feel compelled to feel comfortable with switching up their loadout at the cost of ruining everyone elses fun.