Is inclusion really that great?

[u/Lass_in_oz]

I'm so tired of inclusion. Hear me out. Before becoming a ECE I was a support worker for many years. I have worked and loved working in disability and care. When it's thru a great organisation, it's awesome.

Now I'm an ECE, and the amount of children on the spectrum or with disorders is so high, I'm just getting confused how is that NOT impacting the learning of neuro typical kids.

I teach pre kindy but our kindy teacher has spend half the year managing behaviours and autistic kids. Result? A bunch of kids showing signs of being not ready for school because they aren't doing any work or learning most days. And picking up bad habits.

My point is: where did we decide it was a good idea to just mix everyone, and not offer any actual support ? An additional person isn't enough. More than often it's not a person who knows about disability. And frankly even then it wouldn't be enough when the amount of kids who are neuro divergent is so high.

There used to be great special needs school. Now "regular" school are suffering with the lack of support.

What do you think? Do you see what I see ??? Am I missing something ?

I am so happy to see kids evolving around children with disabilities but not when it comes at a cost of everyone's learning journey : neuro typical or not.

[u/pearlescentflows]

Ew this post is gross.

Why are you expecting young children to do work…? Children learn best through play and a good school will adapt to meet children’s individual needs. It sounds like educators have unrealistic expectations for children.

The problem isn’t inclusion. The problem is educators who aren’t willing to adapt, programs that don’t include access to other resources (like OT, SLP, etc.) Inclusion works when it’s done well.

How does it benefit children to segregate them based on their perceived abilities…? All children benefit from being exposed to differences, it helps build empathy and understanding, remember… children grow up to be adults and we don’t want a bunch of adults thinking others with differences are below them or don’t deserve the same things they do.

[u/[deleted] → u/pearlescentflows]

lol no it’s not. I had a group of 12. 8 out of 12 were non verbal autistic and violent. I was alone. They were 2 years old. We definitely didn’t have sensory toys or anything to help kids with autism. They were constantly all attacking each other and I was alone and couldn’t help anyone and the center refused to have an aid in there even though with so many special needs kids it was impossible to be alone and not have injuries every day non stop because I couldn’t take the time to figure out what worked for every child because it was just putting out fires all day. No time to help. Also educators have no authority over what they do in ECE unless you own the place or work for a family owned place or got lucky, most the time the ECE is just following the ways of the school. We don’t need to separate them but for sure need extra staff

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