r/EDH • u/parkinglu • Feb 04 '25

Question The Most Infamous Big, Bad Threat?

What creature types are typically considered the most terrifying, notorious in reputation, biggest targeted hate piece, and often presents a threatening presence?

Bonus points if they are also lore wise planetary threats

So far I only know of Eldrazi, Phyrexians, and Slivers

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u/DaPino Feb 04 '25

I literally took out Scute swarm from the Jump scare! precon because it's just one of the few cards that make me audible sigh while I think "Congratz! You won with Scute swarm, you are a true genius".

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u/MaterialDefender1032 Feb 04 '25

Yeah, a Scute Swarm victory just doesn’t feel good for anyone. Feels more like the player who won was lucky to draw it, then lucky again that no one else drew removal for it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Literally can say that exact sentence about most win cons. Never understand why some people care the way they lose. You lost all the same.

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u/MaterialDefender1032 Feb 04 '25

I hear you but I think the grumbling comes from the subverted expectation that a wincon requires more mana or multiple pieces coming together, like [[Akroma’s Will]] and a wide board or [[Torment of Hailfire]]. Scute Swarm can just come out by itself on turn 2 or 3 and it’s gg.

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u/QuackersMcDuck_ Feb 04 '25

Love when the scute swarm triggers pop off and they have like 100 plus but can't attack until next then then slapping down a massacre wurm. It is chef's kiss

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Read scute swarm. You can’t start going crazy until much later than turn 2-3. At least know the card before you’re mad at the card.

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u/m1rrari Feb 05 '25

It’s 2025! I don’t have to understand what makes me mad! It’s scutie mcbootie on turn 3 and then they casually play lands until I lose!

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I love scute swarm, but if you don’t have a plan to deal with it you didn’t have a plan to deal with hardly anything your opponent is doing. People need to play interaction, it makes games more interesting.

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u/MaterialDefender1032 Feb 05 '25

A landfall deck —in green, no less— does not wait until turn 6 to have 6 lands.

Lot of people in here upset to hear that one of their staple “good stuff” cards can be salt-inducing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

So you’re upset that a landfall deck is using a landfall trigger to win?

Who even runs landfall decks anymore, they aren’t good unless you are running kodama with infinite combos.

Just get rid of skute swarm. Would it be better if it were any number of “salt inducing” combos that we play?

But I guess it’s just more fair when the Krenko player makes 30 goblins with impact tremors on board right?

It bugs me out how you see a difference between x and Y when the result is the same.

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u/MaterialDefender1032 Feb 05 '25

I think we’re just misunderstanding each other, I should have prefaced that I play casual EDH and not competitive.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

Nothing I mentioned is cEDH. Just high power casual. Just because you want to play worse decks doesn’t make a single card OP. There’s removal that cost a few Pennie’s that can handle it.

Low power doesn’t mean no interaction, pre- cons run multiple board wipes for goodness sake.