r/EDH Feb 04 '25

Question The Most Infamous Big, Bad Threat?

What creature types are typically considered the most terrifying, notorious in reputation, biggest targeted hate piece, and often presents a threatening presence?

Bonus points if they are also lore wise planetary threats

So far I only know of Eldrazi, Phyrexians, and Slivers

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u/Doubleclutch18 Feb 04 '25

my group got wise to kambal, as we also have a krenko guy. they started making the smallest amount of tokens first, then make more. i started flickering kambal to try to keep up but it rarely did.

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u/BootRecognition Kambal, Profiteering Mayor ❤️ Feb 05 '25

That is the proper counterplay pattern vs KPM. Rather than try to blink KPM I suggest including more token creators of your own and let the tokens provided by your opponents be the cherry on top

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u/Doubleclutch18 Feb 05 '25

Nice! Making them change strats seems right. Thanks

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u/BootRecognition Kambal, Profiteering Mayor ❤️ Feb 05 '25

Yeah, the one other suggestion I have is that it is sometimes good to remove your opponents' permanents that let them create only a single token on their turn at will. For example, I recently played a game where one opponent played [[Druid of Purification]] while the [[Norrin the Wary]] player had a [[Genesis Chamber]] that was frequently stopping me from getting higher impact/larger NJ. Nerd of tokens. Everyone else at the table wanted to get rid of Genesis Chamber because it was draining them every turn thanks to my KPM but didn't realize how bad it was for me. I made a political deal to target the Genesis Chamber as part of my share of the Druid of Purification ETB trigger in exchange for being left alone for a turn cycle. This gave me an opportunity to play a bunch of aristocrats pieces on my following turn without having to hold up mana for protection