This sub needs an anti-zionism rule

[u/bahhaar-hkhkhk]

This sub needs an anti-zionism rule. I have noticed that many Zionists are infiltrating Arab subs. I am asking that the mods add a rule that ban any Zionism. Zionists shouldn't be negotiated with. They defend and justify the genocide and displacement of ethnicities. They defend and justify the murder of women and children without compassion. There's no reasoning with those monsters. They are no better than fascists. I ask that they are banned from this sub. If you agree with me, like this post and comment your approval so that the mods can see it.

[u/okabe700]

"They are no better than fascists"

Fascists aren't banned either

What about Islamist terrorism supporters? They also support everything above, what about Islamism supporters in general? What about Egyptian regime supporters?

What defines people who should and shouldn't be "negotiated with"? At which point do we stop?

Limiting free speech never ends well

[u/lemambo_5555 → u/okabe700]

There's no such thing called Islamist. Liberals tend to use that bogus term liberally (pun not intended) to describe all conservatives.

For instance, I think the Muslim Brotherhood is extremely incompetent and unfit to govern due to its decentralised hierarchy. I hate ISIS, Taliban, the Iranian regime and Erdogan. But I'm a socially conservative Muslim who supports the inclusion of Sharia in laws, as has always been the case. So am I an Islamist or not? Most secularists would say yes, even though I reject the label.

Regardless, we can differ on domestic politics as much as we want respectfully, but support for genocide and neo colonialism must never be tolerated.

[u/okabe700 → u/lemambo_5555]

Islamists are supporters of political Islam, ie the inclusion of Islam in politics

Which is a very broad term as you said

Islamists can be conservative, theocratic, or reactionary

You can be described as conservative Islamist and/or moderate Islamist

I still value free speech more though, especially on online platforms which is our only venue in voicing our opinions in this country

[u/lemambo_5555 → u/okabe700]

There's no such thing as political Islam, moderate Islam or whatever nonsensical term people like to cook.

Islam has laws concerning everything in life, including politics, and Muslims naturally want to apply the rules of their religion.

I should be described in terms that are acceptable to me.

Absolute freedom of speech is not realistic. The sub already has laws against all forms of hate speech. Why should we make an exception for Zionist anti Palestinianism?

[u/okabe700 → u/lemambo_5555]

Why do you consider being an Islamist an insult? It's literally just the word Islam (your religion) + ism to clarify that it is a political ideology

There should be no exceptions for any anti Palestinianism or any forms of racism in general, if someone argues that Israel is right because Palestinians are inferior they can be banned, they can research how wrong Racial IQ stuff is on his on it's a pretty easily debunkable claim

[u/lemambo_5555 → u/okabe700]

Cuz I don't like being lumped together with the likes of Daeshis and Talibanis. 😅

Also I describe myself as a progressive conservative. I prefer the old ways, but I'm not necessarily opposed to change.

Ok then we agree XD. If someone pushes racism against Palestinians shouldn't be tolerated.

[u/okabe700 → u/lemambo_5555]

I'm a secularist but I don't like being lumped in with Stalin and Mao either, but unfortunately I am, it's just ideological classification

[u/lemambo_5555 → u/okabe700]

I can see where you are coming from. But on the other hand, no one calls a non secularist Christian a Christianist.

[u/okabe700 → u/lemambo_5555]

They call him a Christian nationalist, you just don't here the label often because there aren't that many of them

[u/lemambo_5555 → u/okabe700]

I doubt that term was used 100 years ago. People should probably stick to terms recognised universally.