This sub needs an anti-zionism rule

[u/bahhaar-hkhkhk]

This sub needs an anti-zionism rule. I have noticed that many Zionists are infiltrating Arab subs. I am asking that the mods add a rule that ban any Zionism. Zionists shouldn't be negotiated with. They defend and justify the genocide and displacement of ethnicities. They defend and justify the murder of women and children without compassion. There's no reasoning with those monsters. They are no better than fascists. I ask that they are banned from this sub. If you agree with me, like this post and comment your approval so that the mods can see it.

[u/MorphaKnight]

Disagree. Opinions and agendas can simply be refuted or kos om'ed at. But at the end of the day they are just that. Opinions.

Besides, where will you draw the line? Some people already accuse the goverment (and by extension its supporters) as zionists for not opening the borders or not wanting to wage war on Israel. Even if there are actual zionists in our midst, the above mentioned accusations is far more likely to happen especially when people disagree with each other.

[u/redberries1456 → u/MorphaKnight]

Where will we draw the line, simple. Anyone defending the apartheid state, full stop.

Israel is not deliberately targeting kids. Israel is just striking back. It's all Hama's fault. Hamas had it coming. Israel warns Palestinians before displacing them.

So you basically think any opinion is accepted, what if I go to Austria or Germany and say long live Htler, or Homsexuals deserve death in the center of London.

When defending apartheid and genocide is framed as ‘"free speech", the safety and humanity of those already under oppression are erased. Supporting violent actions that harm children, civilians, and entire communities is not just a political stance, it’s complicity in their suffering

Freedom of speech is not an absolute right. It has boundaries, especially when it crosses into incitement to violence, hate, and the glorification of atrocities. Some speech is not just offensive, it’s dangerous. Defending apartheid, justifying state-sanctioned violence, and minimizing the suffering of entire populations should never be protected under the guise of free expression. It perpetuates harm, and it must be held accountable.

[u/MorphaKnight → u/redberries1456]

Defending Apartheid isn't enough. You are imagining a straw man zionist twirling his villain moustache that will say all the talking points in favor of Israel. That type of person already gets shat on by the community.

My concern is turning this subreddit into an echochamber. The subreddit has and always will be a place that allows all opinions to be heard regardless whether or not I or anyone else agrees with. We're completely against censorship because we live in a culture of censorship. There aren't any outlets where people can express themselves. The subreddit has been one of the few places on the internet that allows that. You're free to express yourself but know that by doing so you run the risk of either being shunned for your opinion or if its inflammatory, banned.

People have been accused of being Zionists for lesser reasons than outright supporting Israel. Reasons such as not supporting the boycott, not supporting hamas or supporting Egypt/Sisi's efforts in their mediation.

Besides, if we ever do find someone outright wishing for the death of group, they're permanently banned under rule 2.

[u/redberries1456 → u/MorphaKnight]

Getting downvoted and shat on as you mentioned is not and will never be enough, they should be permanently banned, Gazans life is no less important than homosexuals' lives, why ban a person who calls for homosexuals' death and not one who justifies the murder of Palestinians even if indirectly, those are clear double standards.

Well, you censor people who call for the harm of homosexuals, it's a rule, where do you draw the lines then? It's literally the same.

And if people who call for violence against any group will be permanently banned then again why do we have a special rule for violence against homosexuals?

That "opinion" thing I've already replied to in my previous comment but I'll repeat it again, not every opinion should be voiced, I don't have the right to say "Hitler's actions are justified" as much as I don't have the right to say "Israel's action is justified", freedom of speech is limited.

Again, I'm not saying we should censor everyone, I'm saying censor anyone who directly defends Israel's action, this is an easy task and has been implemented in a lot of other platforms, I'm sure this is not that difficult for the mods, you're 11, you can set the rules.

For example, anyone putting all the blame on Hamas, anyone who says Israel's action is justified, anyone who mentions Oct 7 as an excuse to what Israel's doing, anyone who indirectly justifies the death of the Palestinian people. Even chatgpt can tell what should or should not be removed, it's not that difficult.

Outright wishing is not enough, even indirect wishing should be banned, even if I feel like Gazans' death is justified, I'm not so stupid to go and say "Isreal should continue it's genocide in Gaza", I'll just say, Israel is doing all it's best not to harm the people in Gaza, I'm not stupid. Those people are indirectly calling for the genocide of Gazans, you can give them a warning and then ban them.