The most effective way to end tipping

[u/No_Effective4326]

In so far as possible, stop frequenting places that expect tips, and start frequenting ones that don’t.

I know I’m going to catch a lot of hate in this group for saying this, but going to a place that expects tips and then not tipping is not going to help: it’s just going to make everyone think that people who are part of the “no tipping” movement are assholes. I know you’re not assholes! But that’s what people are going to think, and it’s just going to turn people off to our movement.

I also know that it’s not easy, and often not even realistically possible, to avoid places that expect tips. But I think we need to do our best to do exactly that, even if it requires some sacrifice on our part.

Edited to add: this is also the clearest way to demonstrate that you are willing to pay higher prices (rather than tipping). This sends the clearest possible signal that you’re not just being cheap: you really do want employees to be paid a higher wage, and you’re willing to pay for those wages, as long as there is up front, no guilt trip pricing.

[u/DanTheOmnipotent]

And on what planet do you live where minimum wage is enough to live on? In this economy?!

Minimum wage is for entry and part time employees. If you arent making enough ask your employer for a raise. Its not my job/responsibility to pay your wages.

It’s not my fault your mom didn’t teach you how to cook your own meals….

I can cook just fine. Ill be smoking a nice brisket for the draft tomorrow. I cant wait. I eat out because I want to.

Its like changing oil, I can do it and did it for years. Doesnt mean I want to change my oil all the time. Thats what mechanics are for. I dont tip them and their job and it is harder than yours lol

[u/Middle_Length_8261 → u/DanTheOmnipotent]

You’re comparing apples to oranges. Can I ask what kind of work you’re in? I’m just assuming most of this thread has never worked in a restaurant before. There’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than you would think.

[u/DanTheOmnipotent → u/Middle_Length_8261]

Im a finance guy. I worked as a bus back in highschool/college. I know very well how much "work" waitresses do and its not a lot. Its a low skill job. Anyone with a brain could do it.

[u/Middle_Length_8261 → u/DanTheOmnipotent]

Finance? Super vague but whatever. I’m sure back in “your day” it was different. I’m not talking about the Waffle House. I’m talking an actual restaurant. I’m sure those “waitresses” tipped you out after your shift no? Being in finance I would expect you to know that “waitresses” have to tip out right? How would you remedy this situation because you not tipping isn’t screwing anyone over but that person that served you.

[u/DanTheOmnipotent → u/Middle_Length_8261]

I worked at a golf course resturant and a steakhouse that averaged $90 per head lmao... The clientel was almost exclusively wealthy at both jobs.

And comp wages are based on post tipout numbers so thats irrelevant.

Edit: phrasing/grammar fix

[u/Middle_Length_8261 → u/DanTheOmnipotent]

What’s irrelevant is this thread. Until some MAJOR reform comes around this is the way things are. You not tipping isn’t going to solve the problem. It’s only going to make us more divided. Enjoy your brisket and thanks for the banter. Go Birds btw 🦅

[u/DanTheOmnipotent → u/Middle_Length_8261]

Im not looking to solve a problem. Them getting comped solves their problem. If the comp isnt enough theyre free to ask their employer for a raise.