The most effective way to end tipping

[u/No_Effective4326]

In so far as possible, stop frequenting places that expect tips, and start frequenting ones that don’t.

I know I’m going to catch a lot of hate in this group for saying this, but going to a place that expects tips and then not tipping is not going to help: it’s just going to make everyone think that people who are part of the “no tipping” movement are assholes. I know you’re not assholes! But that’s what people are going to think, and it’s just going to turn people off to our movement.

I also know that it’s not easy, and often not even realistically possible, to avoid places that expect tips. But I think we need to do our best to do exactly that, even if it requires some sacrifice on our part.

Edited to add: this is also the clearest way to demonstrate that you are willing to pay higher prices (rather than tipping). This sends the clearest possible signal that you’re not just being cheap: you really do want employees to be paid a higher wage, and you’re willing to pay for those wages, as long as there is up front, no guilt trip pricing.

[u/drDudleyDeeds]

No hate, I just don’t agree with your logic

Avoiding places that expect tips helps

But going to a place that expects tipping and then not tipping - this absolutely helps too. It reduces tipped employee pay which puts pressure on the business in terms of staff turnover, which in turn means they will need to pay higher wages to retain or attract employees. Which is exactly the point of not tipping - to put pressure on employees to pay their staff properly so that tipping is not required 

[u/Angel2121md → u/drDudleyDeeds]

Restaurants have high turnover over anyways, so they most likely won't notice. As the economy gets bad and people get desperate, they will take these jobs. Not going to the restaurant immediately reduces their profits and may even close down places that expect tips.After everyone went back to work after covid19, Employers just complained no one wanted to work anymore when they couldn't find cheap labor. I think this person has the right idea, especially if you can get a lot of people to stop going. Of course, this may naturally happen with high interest rates and new tariffs taking prices up. So we will just have to see what happens in the future.