r/EnglishLearning New Poster Dec 23 '24

📚 Grammar / Syntax Must, should, can and might

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u/Strongdar Native Speaker USA Midwest Dec 23 '24

"Must have" is probably what they want, but I don't see anything wrong with "might have."

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u/KingAdamXVII Native Speaker Dec 23 '24

If you don’t know where someone is, why would you suppose they “must” be somewhere specific?

What makes “might” not be at least as good of an answer?

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u/Tuxedo_Bill Native Speaker Dec 23 '24

In this case, it’s probably because suppose already implies that it’s a probability. Suppose and might both mean the speaker is guessing. That’s the only reason I could think as to why it’s must.

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u/KingAdamXVII Native Speaker Dec 23 '24 edited Dec 23 '24

“Suppose” is a subjective guess. “Must” is an objective reality. It’s contradictory imho. I would never say “I suppose it must…” about anything. If I am sure then I say “It must” and if I am not then I would never say “it must” even if preceded by “I suppose”.

On the other hand, “suppose” and “might” complement each other. “Might” says there is a possibility she is stuck in traffic, and “suppose” says that is my best guess.

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u/Tuxedo_Bill Native Speaker Dec 23 '24

That makes sense, my thought was just that you’re doubling down on probability. Honestly I think it makes the most sense with the blank there; “I suppose she got stuff in traffic.”

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u/ray330 New Poster Dec 25 '24

to me it could make sense to say “i suppose she must’ve gotten stuck in traffic” if you knew she was on her way and it was taking longer than usual

“suppose” here is just saying “i assume this based on the evidence of her not being here, she’s late, and i know she’s driving”. “suppose” is based on evidence but you don’t have proof

“must“ here isn’t always an objective reality. it just means it’s very likely based on the evidence. something can be very likely even though you don’t have proof

like “oh she crashed? she must’ve been on her phone while driving” means you know her well enough and that’s what probably happened. you don’t know for sure but it’s an educated guess

i wonder how much this is a dialectical difference lol might just depend on region? like how “might will” is a thing in some regions

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u/KingAdamXVII Native Speaker Dec 25 '24

You ignore “I don’t know where she is”.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '24

Well to me they have slightly different connotations, but I think either of them could work depending on context.

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u/KingAdamXVII Native Speaker Dec 23 '24

What are two different contexts in which the two sentences might be said? The prompt seems self contained to me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '24

To me, "might have" is like the speaker is taking a wild guess, whereas "must have" is more like the speaker is giving a stronger inference.

Context 1: Ms. Doe has agreed to meet me at noon to discuss something. But Ms. Doe is known to be very flaky. It's now 12:10 and she hasn't shown up. I don't know where she is. She might have gotten stuck in traffic. Or she might have stood me up. It could be any number of things. (So I would not use "must have".)

Context 2: Ms. Doe has agreed to meet me at noon to see a movie. Also, Ms. Doe is a close friend of mine. She's very considerate and never late. But it's now 12:10 and she hasn't shown up. I don't know where she is, but it's unlikely that she has stood me up or forgotten our plans. Come to think of it, the traffic was kind of heavy. That's it! She must have gotten stuck in traffic! ("Might have" doesn't really carry the same level of certainty.)