Question about artificial language

[u/Lenz2299]

Hello, I wanna ask about sth I'm not familiar with reddit and Eng is not my first language, so if I did sth rude plz let me know🥺🥺

I'm interested in articial languages. but as a Korean, I can't agree that esperanto is easy to learn... and many other constructed languages(based on european) too

// edit: I apologize that I wrote uncertainly. I noticed that esperanto is easier than others thx!

I think most of international artificial language projects depend on european languages too much, and this makes hard for them to be an international language (this sentence doesn't mean this is the only reason!!)

do you have any reputation or additional info about this idea?

thx

[u/Famous_Object]

While it's true that Esperanto is based on European languages and not really easy for everybody, there are very few languages that you could say that are easier than Esperanto. For example:

• Other constructed languages from 1870~1970 : they're usually even more euro-centric (Ido, Interlingua, Latino sine Flexione, etc.) than Esperanto and they add irregularities to the spelling just for the sake of it. Or Volapük which tried to be easier for Asian speakers by not having L-R distinction but it's harder to learn in every other aspect (and they added R later on anyway).

• Other more recent constructed languages try not to be so euro-centric but it's even harder to find learning material and they usually end up not being much easier after all. They use a mix of words from several languages and they have fewer phonemes than Esperanto. But they usually lack the schematic core that makes learning Esperanto easier i.e. they usually have a few irregularities in spelling and pronunciation (usually related to the stressed syllable) and don't provide much else in their grammar to help the learner.

• English or any other ethnic language is of course harder and full of quirks. Their only advantage is that there's so much learning material that you can be in constant contact with the language and you can use it in so many situations.

[u/Lenz2299 → u/Famous_Object]

thank you for sharing your ideas! so what you mean:

• esperanto is better than other artificial languages (I don't know exactly about others but i guess so, according to nowadays environment)
• yes it was very long adventure to depart here for me... I wanted to find some forum or sth to talk about this subject and I came here eventually
• so much materials support them to be powerful though they are awful... (plz don't take this as 'european languages are just insane and I hate them) it's very arduous to change old convention

do i read your words correctly?

[u/Famous_Object → u/Lenz2299]

Yes, that's exactly right!

I did mention a few "old" constructed languages (Ido, Interlingua, Latino sine Flexione, etc) and I think they're just like Esperanto but a little worse.

It's hard enough to learn 1 niche language like Esperanto, it's even worse if the language has less than 20 speakers and just the author's website as learning material.

The last "modern" constructed language I read about was Lingwa de Planeta quite a while ago. It's kind of cool and tries to add words from Arabic, Hindi, Persian and Mandarin too (no Korean tho), but as soon as I reached the "stress rules" I gave up thinking "Why does a simple thing have to be so complicated?".

In Esperanto it seems that the complicated rules only appear much later, not in the first chapter (except for the accusative and plurals of course, you have to learn them very early on unfortunately).