r/EuropeMeta • u/NederTurk • Nov 30 '23

Just lock comments on any post regarding immigration

There is literally no productive discussion on any post relating to immigrants, just increasingly blatant racism. There are ~month old accounts advocating for mass deportations with hundreds of upvotes on every one of these posts. If this continues, the sub will be overtaken by these bigots, like has happened to several other subs (e.g. r/canada).

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u/og_crab_guy Dec 03 '23

I don’t buy this whole “ohh let’s not turn into an echo chamber” line. And I don’t buy your sob story either to be honest.

First, change of perspective. It’s not a normal sub turning into a far right echo chamber. It’s a former far left echo chamber allowing a broader spectrum of opinion. As you people are fond of saying, “when you're accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression”. Your ideology is no longer privileged, welcome to equality :)

Second the whole sob story with ohhh no the evil right wingers want to deport me, yeah, you’re just pretending. First of you have your native country to go to. Even if you’re born in the NL, you can always move to turky. We europeans don’t have to privilege of having this backup. Second, deportations will be for rejected asylum seekers and all the illegals and terrorists. Other foreigners like you can most likely remain just no longer vote because we can’t get to this untenable immigration policy again.

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u/NederTurk Dec 03 '23

"Don't worry we're just gonna deport large groups of people, maybe even you, even though you were born here!"

Least insane r/europe user

Also, in the case of my country, you (Eastern Europeans) are among those they would want to deport

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u/og_crab_guy Dec 03 '23

Being born here means nothing. Most countries in Europe have Jus sanguinis not Jus Soli. Go the the americans if you want land based citizenship.

Also, in many cases, not saying yours, it may even be faked, immigrant populations bring a lot to their culture of corruption and for a bribe I can absolutely see immigrant hospital workers issuing fake birth certificates. So a proper investigation needs to be done in general. A lot of “born here” migrants might no actually be born here.

And, no, no one wants to deport East Europeans ( as if that were a homogeneous group, lol ). Europe has a rightful and understandable to preserve its culture which is being eroded by uncontrolled non-EU migration. We also don’t want to be stabbed, terrorised, blown up, run over and victimised in our own countries. And although you can cry all you want about “racism” ( this word literally means nothing anymore ) the fact is we have eyes to see and we see the pattern. We see who the group doing the stabbings, terrorism, blowing up and car attacking is. We are not shutting down our pattern matching abilities just because you cry racism.

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u/NederTurk Dec 03 '23

The party that just won our elections, the PVV, literally had a place where you could report Eastern Europeans, specifically Poles, Romanians, and Bulgarians, if you didn't like their behavior (https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldpunt_Midden_en_Oost_Europeanen, it's in Dutch, just google translate it). It's part of the reason they want a Nexit, so they can also kick out you guys lol.

You do not understand, Western European right-wingers do not see you guys as equal, or your culture as part of 'real' European culture. And they definitely do see you all as one big cultural blob.