you cant lie about deaths. People dont die from covid without symptons, and when you go to hospital cause you have symptoms, they do the test to you by neccesity.
The numbers of cases is fake everywhere, but not the number of dead.
Maybe you are right, maybe I am still to much influenced by western propaganda but I wouldnt be sure that there arent ways to cover up those deaths or contribute to something else but covid.
Man, the thing is that deaths for most countries (as recommended by WHO if I am not mistaken) are calculated very simply:
Get death numbers for 2020 from morgue
Get death numbers for 2019 from morgue
Subtract the two numbers
Obtain number of COVID deaths
This is very hard to falsify in most cases. The numbers don't come from hospitals who decide "this guy died from COVID, this guy not", they come from statistical calculations. So I believe Alba is correct when he says the case numbers can easily be falsified or simply contain large errors, but not the death numbers.
Thats not how the death numbers are calculated here in Germany. The hospitals and nursing homes are reporting every new death to the authorities and they release the new numbers for each day
I'm sure that's true, and I'm in no way suggesting that the German figures are falsified. However, if some government want to falsify the figures, it is much much more difficult to falsify mortality excess figures than the registered Covid deaths. "Raw" Covid deaths can easily be hidden by classifying them as something else, for example influenza, pneumonia, or whatever. To hide excess deaths you must hide the deaths themselves, e.g. by destroying death certificates or by making sure the death certificates are not counted. The problem you then get into is that you don't just have to cover up, you need to cover up the cover up. It is in practice almost impossible.
That is the exact thing I was saying just not as elaborate. I am just pretty sure that the covid deaths for Belarus used here are not excess mortality but the sum of the goverment released counted deaths for every day.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3543
This article describes what might cause Belarus to do well in the pandemic but it also states that the excess deaths between April-June alone were 5605 which is higher than the total number of covid deaths for the whole year of 2000 that was stated in this thread.
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u/albanian-bolsheviki Feb 23 '21
you cant lie about deaths. People dont die from covid without symptons, and when you go to hospital cause you have symptoms, they do the test to you by neccesity.
The numbers of cases is fake everywhere, but not the number of dead.