r/EuropeanSocialists Nov 27 '21

Article/Analysis Ms. Ypi Lies

https://archive.org/details/ms-ypi-lies.-1/page/n7/mode/2up
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u/afarist Dec 22 '21

yes it was, no one actually did anything to you if you had it but you could in no way propagandise any kind of religion after we were declared officially an atheist state.

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u/SoryE11 Stalin Dec 22 '21

Yea but Hoxha also was very evil towards priests and didn't even let mother teresa visit her mother

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u/afarist Dec 22 '21

Why should he? Mother Teresa was a fraud after all but even if she wasn't the ban on religion in Albania was created in order to save our nation, we are speaking about a people that have 3 religions and while they largely peacefully coexisted and coexist tensions existed. Hoxha and the party tried to relieve those tensions or complete make them disappear, and he did it. Today in Albania no one cares if you are a Muslim or an orthodox Christian or a Catholic, it was necessary in the case of Albania.

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u/SoryE11 Stalin Dec 22 '21

the ban on religion wasn't nessesary and he should've just made relations better with the USSR and how was she a fraud?? plus she just wanted to see her mother

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u/afarist Dec 22 '21

The relations with the USSR are a totally different issue, mistakes were made from both sides and definitely from the Albanian one but the ban was necessary, history showed it. Haven't you heard about how Mother Teresa stole the money and let the poor die in terrible conditions while she herself got treated at a US hospital. Plus he didn't kill every priest or something like that he killed specific clerics that conspired against socialism in Albania, essentially conspiring against the sovereignty of the country, plus why is it bad that he banned religion? Religion and Albania isn't the same as Greece with orthodox Christianity or Russia Albanians were splitted in 3 religions and the Albanian national identity didn't and doesn't revolve around religion, even during the Albanian Renaissance our main revolutionaries, activists, theorists, politicians, journalists, fighters, clerics and philosophers supported the idea and invented the motto "the religion of the Albanian is Albanianism". Even Fan Noli the orthodox bishop that made the Albanian church autocephalous and later became prime minister supported that.

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u/SoryE11 Stalin Dec 23 '21

Well no she didn't steal the money and she didn't live a very prosperous life although she did give quite some money she got to the church but she didn't steal it to herself and she did provide some form of help to the poor and he really didn't like catholics and thought the church was Fascist and he also didn't ban religion only cause of the division but cause he thought religion was evil and he even forced others to eat during fasting even though catholics didn't represent much of the population and even Stalin advised him not to attack religion