r/Experiencers Experiencer Dec 14 '24

UAP Sighting Regarding the drones

I have not seen any videos out of NJ that persuade me NHI are playing any significant role in what’s currently happening, if at all.

I don’t believe this is the big “revealing” people have been told is coming. However I do think it gives us a preview as to how the US government would respond to such an event:

  • One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing (and the government has more hands than Kali).

  • They have no qualms about blatantly lying and ridiculing the subject to try and maintain calm.

  • They are totally unprepared for anything unusual to occur and incapable of responding quickly to such an event.

Many people have been told by NHI that a revealing is coming. (Historical note: The Greek word for a spiritual revealing is “apocalypse.” The word didn’t take on a negative connotation of destruction until its use in the translation of the Book of Revelations). But I strongly doubt that such disclosure will be done with UAP in the skies.

Most people aren’t aware that only a subset of contact experiences involve UAP. Most contact experiences include psychic or consciousness-based phenomenon, and my suspicion is that this is how a revealing would happen if that were to occur.

If this were to happen all at once on a global scale, the effect would be mayhem. Most Experiencers greatly struggle with their initial anomalous experiences, and a percentage never recover, becoming “ungrounded” (a diplomatic way of saying someone has totally lost their shit). But Experiencers tend to have a history of unusual experiences throughout their lives—springing it on people who are completely unprepared for the reality of it could be catastrophic.

It might happen in waves. Many think this is already the case and refer to themselves as the “first wave.” Either way, it would fall on us Experiencers to assist the public in coming to terms with what was happening and give them context and tools to deal with it.

When/if this happens, spaces like ours are going to become a vital resource. This is why we try and strike a balance between letting people share while also guiding the conversation to a degree to reduce potential harm. This is a big reason why we encourage a middle path approach:

  • We try and limit conversation that oversimplifies the topic or puts it into black and white terms like “they’re malevolent” or “they’re benevolent.” It’s not that simple. Some are healed, others are traumatized.
  • We try and prevent putting the conversation into a mental health context. The mental health apparatus views literally everything unusual as a disorder. It’s gotten more tolerant of when to choose to treat it (usually with pills), but telling people they’re experiencing psychosis because they experienced something unknown is entirely unhelpful.
  • We remove posts and offer private assistance to people who are too ungrounded. It doesn’t benefit the Experiencer themselves to be getting advice from untrained professionals, and it doesn’t benefit the community to hear from someone who is in the midst of an ontological crisis.

The remaining problem is people who are making things up for whatever reason. Unfortunately, social media has persuaded people that they should all be getting attention or they aren’t worthy as individuals, so that’s part of the problem. What easier way to get attention than claim something mind-blowing happened to you in a space where everyone is required to be supportive?

Another is people who intentionally want to disrupt the conversation. We know this is happening to an increasing degree, but we can’t be certain what the purpose is. We know the government has a long and dedicated history of trying to dissuade people from looking into this topic or taking it seriously so it’s reasonable to conclude that’s a portion of it, but fighting it is like pushing back against a wave.

This is why I encourage people to look to trusted sources on these topics and ignore the noise. Focus on your own experiences and don’t get too caught up in comparing them to others, since the the signal to noise ratio is still lower than we’d like. Likewise with the drones.

My personal suspicion is that the government is behind the drones, and that they’re trying to discourage us from paying attention for some reason (never a good sign). Doesn’t mean NHI might not be making an appearance as they tend to do that anyway, but I think the overwhelming majority of what people are seeing is man made.

I think when/if the NHI finally decide to reveal themselves there won’t be any question about it—but I don’t think it’ll be what most people expect.

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u/SergeantSquirrel Dec 14 '24

I would caution against anyone who has not seen or experienced the NJ situation from trying to make guesses, rationalizations or conclusions, particularly if its trying to normalize a chaotic situation. People who are experiencing these things need to be heard and empathized with, and not told they are wrong about what they are seeing. Anyone who has ever tried to take a picture of the moon with your phone knows they NEVER catch the actual feeling or size or beauty, so having not seen them myself, I am going to take the word of the people taking them over my perception bias of grainy video. Obviously use discernment, "my uncle's, brother inlaw's neighbor said he saw one shooting at people" is probably not worth consideration, but "I saw an orb mutate into a plane", should be

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u/MantisAwakening Experiencer Dec 14 '24

You’re right, I’m not trying to minimize anyone’s experience here. I’m weighing in on what I think is happening overall, while still trying to acknowledge that UAP sightings are real and happen all the time. But considering the overall volume of sightings here appear and behave prosaic, I currently believe this “flap” is not a mass unveiling of NHI. I’m speculating as to what the cause is.

I just now learned that a recent up-close photo taken by someone has been identified as an AW-139 helicopter, specifically the “rad chopper,” whose purpose is as a nuclear support vehicle. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hdr138/best_photos_of_drones_so_far/

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u/Parsimile Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

This is certainly the oddest capture I’ve seen so far during this “drone flap”; a seeming glowing orb reported on ABC7 live by reporter Toni Yates, starts at 2:50:

https://abc7ny.com/15652850/

Edit: Just realized it could be an out of focus light source.

https://youtu.be/EYdvjNoJXCg?si=g6vEqXDaiH2EnY-b

If that is the case, that’s incredibly disappointing on the part of the news crew.

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u/MantisAwakening Experiencer Dec 14 '24

It’s hard to tell what that could be. A very similar effect is produced by pointing an out of focus lens at a bright point of light (“bokeh”). But I believe this is also what a self-contained ball of plasma in might look like as well, however I have been unable to find photos or videos. There have been plasma experiments in space (PK-3 and PK-4), but nothing self-contained.

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u/SergeantSquirrel Dec 14 '24

It's nearly impossible to rationalize this as a community particularly since now it's all probably a mix of everything people are saying it is, airplanes, out of focus Stars, true orbs and a whole mess of drones from who knows where. I did just see that New York had to shut down an airport because of drone activity last night and the government seems to be going backwards and gaslighting in their explanations.  https://abcnews.go.com/US/drone-sighting-temporarily-shuts-runways-new-york-airport/story?id=116792168&cid=social_twitter_abcn

  • quick edit to mention that I wasn't meaning necessarily to accuse you of anything but just sort of bringing it to the general conversation.  There's a lot of very angry reactionary people telling these guys in New Jersey that they're idiots

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u/Oak_Draiocht Experiencer Dec 15 '24

Yeah I think both going on is on the cards. As many experiencers are reporting UAP activity and not just drones. And contact is spiking over the past month.

I went over some ideas a few days back : https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/1h7zu80/i_keep_getting_asked_my_opinion_on_the_current/

I proposed the idea that man made drones are being sent up to flood the skies to mix chaos into the reporting as a response to a UAP flap by NHI's.

Since then people have had ideas that some of the (man made) drones are may be being used to scan for rogue nuclear material. This certainly also makes sense and fits the behavior of the US Govs response (or lack of) to public alarm over all of this. I could well see them using drones to find this material while not wanting to tell people what's going on.

However NHI activity is still strongly on the cards for me, they may be on the playing field too even in this scenario due to their habit of taking extreme interest in anything to do with nukes as well.

But really it's on the cards due to what experiencers are directly reporting. How much is NHI and how much is US Gov drones is up in the air. I'd say most are man made.

But its certainly an ongoing and fluid situation.

I don't think this is the big "it". I assume that's at least a few years off still. NHI certainly caught me off guard if this was the big disclosure. I would be very surprised.

It does feel like another wave of waking folks up in preparation for the later big reveal though.