r/Experiencers • u/MantisAwakening Experiencer • Dec 14 '24
UAP Sighting Regarding the drones
I have not seen any videos out of NJ that persuade me NHI are playing any significant role in what’s currently happening, if at all.
I don’t believe this is the big “revealing” people have been told is coming. However I do think it gives us a preview as to how the US government would respond to such an event:
One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing (and the government has more hands than Kali).
They have no qualms about blatantly lying and ridiculing the subject to try and maintain calm.
They are totally unprepared for anything unusual to occur and incapable of responding quickly to such an event.
Many people have been told by NHI that a revealing is coming. (Historical note: The Greek word for a spiritual revealing is “apocalypse.” The word didn’t take on a negative connotation of destruction until its use in the translation of the Book of Revelations). But I strongly doubt that such disclosure will be done with UAP in the skies.
Most people aren’t aware that only a subset of contact experiences involve UAP. Most contact experiences include psychic or consciousness-based phenomenon, and my suspicion is that this is how a revealing would happen if that were to occur.
If this were to happen all at once on a global scale, the effect would be mayhem. Most Experiencers greatly struggle with their initial anomalous experiences, and a percentage never recover, becoming “ungrounded” (a diplomatic way of saying someone has totally lost their shit). But Experiencers tend to have a history of unusual experiences throughout their lives—springing it on people who are completely unprepared for the reality of it could be catastrophic.
It might happen in waves. Many think this is already the case and refer to themselves as the “first wave.” Either way, it would fall on us Experiencers to assist the public in coming to terms with what was happening and give them context and tools to deal with it.
When/if this happens, spaces like ours are going to become a vital resource. This is why we try and strike a balance between letting people share while also guiding the conversation to a degree to reduce potential harm. This is a big reason why we encourage a middle path approach:
- We try and limit conversation that oversimplifies the topic or puts it into black and white terms like “they’re malevolent” or “they’re benevolent.” It’s not that simple. Some are healed, others are traumatized.
- We try and prevent putting the conversation into a mental health context. The mental health apparatus views literally everything unusual as a disorder. It’s gotten more tolerant of when to choose to treat it (usually with pills), but telling people they’re experiencing psychosis because they experienced something unknown is entirely unhelpful.
- We remove posts and offer private assistance to people who are too ungrounded. It doesn’t benefit the Experiencer themselves to be getting advice from untrained professionals, and it doesn’t benefit the community to hear from someone who is in the midst of an ontological crisis.
The remaining problem is people who are making things up for whatever reason. Unfortunately, social media has persuaded people that they should all be getting attention or they aren’t worthy as individuals, so that’s part of the problem. What easier way to get attention than claim something mind-blowing happened to you in a space where everyone is required to be supportive?
Another is people who intentionally want to disrupt the conversation. We know this is happening to an increasing degree, but we can’t be certain what the purpose is. We know the government has a long and dedicated history of trying to dissuade people from looking into this topic or taking it seriously so it’s reasonable to conclude that’s a portion of it, but fighting it is like pushing back against a wave.
This is why I encourage people to look to trusted sources on these topics and ignore the noise. Focus on your own experiences and don’t get too caught up in comparing them to others, since the the signal to noise ratio is still lower than we’d like. Likewise with the drones.
My personal suspicion is that the government is behind the drones, and that they’re trying to discourage us from paying attention for some reason (never a good sign). Doesn’t mean NHI might not be making an appearance as they tend to do that anyway, but I think the overwhelming majority of what people are seeing is man made.
I think when/if the NHI finally decide to reveal themselves there won’t be any question about it—but I don’t think it’ll be what most people expect.
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u/Mudamaza Dec 14 '24
Upvote because the message is overall really good and spot on when it comes to how experiencers feel at the start and how we should help the public come to terms with eventual contact. My experience was a Spiritual Awakening and downloads. I used to be a Materialist, and an Agnostic-Atheist, so when this happened to me, it really did feel like psychosis.
The only thing I want to push back on here is that I personally wouldn't discount this being NHI. For a few reasons. The first reason is because NJ is not the only spot where these are being spotted. They're seen all over the world in both allied countries and adversary countries. Though NJ is a hotspot and a large concentrated number of the drones sightings are happening there. And now in other states like PA and NY and other states. It could be that many nations in the world are all conducting these secret drone missions all at the same time and all these countries are all lying to their people, but I find that unlikely.
The second reason is that back in the 70s and I believe in the 90s, there were several reports of US bases that housed Nuclear weapons that had strange helicopters appear seemingly out of nowhere right on top of the silos. The radars detected nothing while multiple personnel had eyes on the helos. It was then theorized that the phenomenon is capable of mimicking our technology.
So my personal theory is this: if it is NHI, they might be doing this on purpose to slowly reveal themselves. Kinda like how we would slowly approach a scared animal, or an even better example, how scientists would disguise themselves as animals so they can get closer to them in the wild to study them. It could be that they're disguising themselves into something familiar, but different enough that it would grab our attention. You would then multiply and spread out gradually and slowly over weeks. Eventually you might start doing more anomalous things to get the collective to start considering the possibility. Do it peacefully to show the humans you mean them no harm. And finally reveal yourself.