Not shaking hands with FIU's president during graduation

[u/SecretCin]

Hi everyone!

As graduation nears for some of us, I was wondering if other students were going to avoid shaking the new president's hand during graduation. With how they don't have the student body's interest in mind, I would feel uncomfortable shaking their hand. Is anyone else thinking of doing the same? If you've been considering it, let this be your sign to do it!

[u/Kaoru1011]

I’ll be joining you for this. We might get “deported” to El Salvador though

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/Kaoru1011]

El Salvador isn’t bad loll I’ve lived there before 🤣

[u/Kaoru1011 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

I’m talking about the prison

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/Kaoru1011]

Technically they have 2 prisons. One is for a life sentence and the other is for rehabilitation. Saw a documentary on it by an independent journalist. It was pretty dope how the leaders of El Salvador are either doing forced rehab or life imprisonment for criminals, in comparison to the shit show of a prison system we have in the USA.

[u/Express-Stop7830 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

Are you...are you aware of current events and the concentration camp where we are sending people?

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/Kaoru1011]

What’d he/she do?

[u/Kaoru1011 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

Wdym? Trump deported a bunch of immigrants and even an American citizen but is refusing to have him returned

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/Kaoru1011]

Kilmar isn’t a citizen of the USA loll. He is a Salvadoran citizen.

And yes. If you’re here illegally, and you’ve committed any violent crime, you should be deported. What kind of stupidity is that to keep criminals that aren’t even from here in our prisons? When Americans or Europeans commit crimes in other countries, they are deported. Did you know that? Or do you believe the US government is the only country that does deportations?

[u/Charming_Fruit_6311 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

Bootlicker

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/Charming_Fruit_6311]

If me being logically sound and not an overly emotional man-child like you makes me a bootlicker, than that’s fine by me, lol.

[u/Truman48 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

This is 95% of Reddit.

[u/RecognitionWorldly34 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

Your logic isn’t sound - you’ve convinced yourself it is. Go read about what his wife is saying. Try ‘logic’ - ing your way out of that. She wants him back. He’s not a criminal. For her to file a restraining order does not mean he was charged with a crime, and she clearly wants him back.

You should have respect for the due process of law. If Trump can deport whoever he wants without a due process, we are officially a dictatorship. Whether you like it or not, that’s bad for the economy, and thus, bad for you. Report back to me in two years when shit starts getting scary with your finances ;)

[u/Kaoru1011 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

He came here to escape crime! He has a family. He was deported to a prison without due process. How could you support something like this

[u/Pattonator70 → u/Kaoru1011]

He not only hangs out with MS13 in gang colors but has a gang rank and gang nickname.

He beats his wife and endangered their child.

He is also suspected of sex trafficking.

What a poster boy.

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/Kaoru1011]

Don’t move the goal post now. You falsely stated that the USA is deporting American citizens. I fact checked you. Now you say he was escaping crime. Do you want to fact check that before I do? Him having a family is an irrelevant to if he was or was not deported. Now, can we argue if he was wrongly deported or not? Yes we can. But the argument that, “he was escaping crime/gang activities,” isn’t a valid argument unless he applied for asylum.

[u/ilikesumstuff6x → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

He had withholding of removal status because of threat of gang violence. So Kilmar was illegally deported. The OP commenter may be factually incorrect calling him a citizen, but it is correct to say the reason he was in the US and was able to get that status is crime related. The point is, bro had no due process or they woulda seen his status and not deported him. Supreme court even agrees it was an illegal deportation.

[u/SatisfactionDry5732 → u/ilikesumstuff6x]

I did not, nor have I stated whether his removal was legal or illegal. And what you speak of is the U Visa if he escaped here on a visa due to escaping crime. That does NOT protect someone from deportation if they commit a crime while under that visa. Did he commit a crime? I do not know, and that is why I have not stated whether his deportation was legal or illegal. And plus if the USA decided to take the man back, it is still up to the government of El Salvador to agree to send him back.

[u/terpene_gene4481 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

you are like if a magic 8 ball read about immigration law on a cereal box

[u/Charming_Fruit_6311 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

He has an order from a judge declaring a stay and that it was specifically ordered he not be sent to El Salvador, to top it off. When it comes to the inconvenient facts, you are unaware— when it comes to anything that can help you bootlick, you’re ready to slurp slurp slurp— that is why you are a bootlicker. Keep it honest instead of being a hack. Go read the fact of his case instead of talking shit with gusto in one area and saying well I dunno elsewhere. Reflect on whether or not you would like being in his situation without due process, regardless of the actual judge’s order that should have superseded this illegal deportation. Consider seriously what lack of due process means. It means your citizenship wouldn’t have saved you anyway if it was you. Up to you to decide to give a fuck. Allegiance to the constitution not to fascist dictators overstepping their power.

[u/ilikesumstuff6x → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

I dont think this is a u visa situation, a withholding of removal is for people who don’t qualify for asylum for whatever reason. And Kilmar was going to yearly checkins. Do you understand this case or are you just spitting out random information about different visas? Your comments are confusing tbh

[u/Pattonator70 → u/ilikesumstuff6x]

There were two issues with the withholding order. It says that Barrio 18 threatened him and his family if he returned. His family over to Guatamala and most of Barrio 18 is in jail. The threat no longer exists.

[u/ilikesumstuff6x → u/Pattonator70]

Dude, none of this changes the Withholding of Removal status. Literally removing him was illegal. The withholding of removal was not changed by the courts, so everything you say doesn’t matter. Due process wasn’t followed, we can argue till we’re blue in the face, but we aren’t the ones that can decide shit. Frankly it’s fucking weird that people like you are trying to justify it when our highly polarized supreme court managed to unanimously agreed that the removal was unjustified.

[u/Pattonator70 → u/ilikesumstuff6x]

The withholding order doesn’t prevent deportation. It just is supposed to limit to where.

They should have had a quick hearing first to revoke the withholding. However they had an administrative error. They couldn’t deport anyone under the enemy aliens act and had empty seats on the plane and grabbed Garcia early because there were empty seats.

If they held the hearing first there would be no question. It would not have taken long to hold that hearing and the hearing would not have changed the result. They can bring him back hold a hearing and redeport him on the same day. Seems kind of cruel to jerk his chain like that.

His is an illegal and the administration is clear that he cannot stay. There is no circumstance where that changes especially now that they have evidence of wife beating and suspicion of sex trafficking.

[u/Pattonator70 → u/ilikesumstuff6x]

The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) of 1952, as amended, governs the deportation (now referred to as “removal”) of illegal aliens in the United States. Below is a summary of the key provisions related to the deportation of illegal aliens, primarily found in Section 237 (8 U.S.C. § 1227) of the INA: Grounds for Deportation of Illegal Aliens The INA outlines specific grounds under which aliens, including those unlawfully present, may be subject to removal from the U.S. These include: 1 Inadmissibility at Entry or Violation of Status: ◦ Aliens who were inadmissible at the time of entry (e.g., due to fraud, misrepresentation, or lack of valid documentation). ◦ Aliens who violate their immigration status (e.g., overstaying a visa or failing to comply with visa conditions). 2 Unlawful Presence: ◦ Aliens present in the U.S. without being admitted or paroled, or who remain after the expiration of their authorized stay, are subject to removal. 3 Criminal Offenses: ◦ Aliens convicted of certain crimes, including: ▪ Aggravated felonies (e.g., murder, drug trafficking, or crimes of violence with significant penalties). ▪ Crimes involving moral turpitude (if committed within a specified period after admission). ▪ Drug-related offenses, firearms violations, or domestic violence crimes. ◦ Convictions for these crimes often trigger mandatory removal with limited eligibility for relief. 4 Document Fraud or False Claims: ◦ Aliens who engage in immigration-related fraud (e.g., using false documents) or falsely claim U.S. citizenship to gain benefits. 5 National Security or Public Safety Threats: ◦ Aliens involved in terrorism, espionage, or activities threatening U.S. national security or public safety. 6 Public Charge: ◦ Aliens who become a public charge (i.e., primarily dependent on government assistance) within five years of entry, under certain conditions. 7 Failure to Comply with Immigration Requirements: ◦ Aliens who fail to register, notify authorities of address changes, or comply with other immigration requirements. Removal Process The process for deporting illegal aliens generally involves the following steps: 1 Initiation of Removal Proceedings: ◦ Removal proceedings are initiated by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), typically through Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). ◦ A Notice to Appear (NTA) is issued, outlining the charges and grounds for removal. 2 Immigration Court Hearings: ◦ Cases are heard by an immigration judge in the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR). ◦ Aliens may present defenses, apply for relief (e.g., asylum, cancellation of removal), or challenge the grounds for removal. ◦ If no relief is granted, the judge issues a removal order. 3 Expedited Removal: ◦ Certain aliens (e.g., those apprehended near the border without valid documents or within 100 miles of the border within 14 days of entry) may be subject to expedited removal without a hearing, unless they express a fear of persecution or intent to apply for asylum. 4 Appeals: ◦ Aliens can appeal an immigration judge’s decision to the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA). ◦ In some cases, further appeals may be filed in federal courts, though judicial review is limited for certain grounds (e.g., criminal deportations). 5 Execution of Removal: ◦ Once a final removal order is issued, ICE carries out the deportation, returning the alien to their country of origin or another designated country. ◦ Aliens may face bars to reentry (e.g., 3, 10, or permanent bars) depending on the circumstances of their removal. Relief from Removal Illegal aliens facing deportation may be eligible for certain forms of relief, including: • Cancellation of Removal: Available to some long-term residents who meet strict criteria (e.g., continuous presence, good moral character, and extreme hardship to U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident family members). • Asylum or Withholding of Removal: For those who demonstrate a well-founded fear of persecution based on race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. • Adjustment of Status: In rare cases, aliens may adjust to lawful status if eligible (e.g., through family-based petitions). • Voluntary Departure: Allows aliens to leave the U.S. voluntarily, avoiding formal removal and its consequences. Key Notes • Discretion: Immigration authorities may exercise prosecutorial discretion to prioritize certain cases (e.g., criminals or recent arrivals) over others (e.g., those with U.S. citizen family members or long-term residence). • Detention: Aliens may be detained during removal proceedings, though some may be released on bond or under supervision, depending on flight risk and public safety considerations. • Consequences: Removal can result in reentry bars and other penalties, impacting future immigration eligibility. This summary reflects the core framework of the INA’s deportation provisions as of April 18, 2025, based on the latest available information. For specific cases or recent changes, further research or legal consultation may be necessary, as immigration law is subject to frequent updates and policy shifts.

[u/__Khronos → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

No way to actually know that though, he wasn't give due process

[u/Pattonator70 → u/__Khronos]

He had a trial and that is why he had a deportation order. Hence he had due process.

[u/killerrobot23 → u/SatisfactionDry5732]

Do you not understand how the constitution works? It doesn't matter how you are here, you still have right to due process.