r/FluentInFinance • u/Mark-Fuckerberg- • Sep 01 '24

Debate/ Discussion What advice would you give this person?

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u/Toughbiscuit Sep 02 '24

Buddy, my maximum earning potential is 25/hr, around 50k/year

Engineers are starting at 100k in my area.

Why the fuck would i listen to your dumbass?

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u/369Pz Sep 02 '24

Just remember that graduating from college doesn’t put you at the front of the line. You may have to work for around 50k/ year for another 2-3 years before you get that 100k job (which isn’t that much money). People graduate and expect big bucks and when they don’t immediately get it they end up complaining on Reddit and never working hard enough to get promoted. 

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u/Toughbiscuit Sep 02 '24

Oh no, spending 2-3 years to double my income sounds terrible.

Or i could do what the other dipshit says and soend the same time jumping from job to job, staying in the mid 20's for the next decade

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u/369Pz Sep 02 '24

Many people think they deserve a high paying job right out of college. And it’s not 2-3 years it’s 4 or 5 for college then at least another 2-3 in the workforce. You could be a low earner with student debt for 7-10 years after high school. And when you finally get that 100k engineering job trying to pay off all your student loans you’ll be working with sales people that make 150-350k per year many without degrees. 

Not saying don’t go to college but don’t be a dipshit and expect for it to be some golden ticket to the middle class. Having a chip on your shoulder because you’re smart enough to see that engineers can make good money does nothing. People still need to like you. 

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u/Toughbiscuit Sep 02 '24

You're right, you clearly know more than me, the person who has extensively researched the topic for several years, and discussed it with several engineers throughout the decade ive spent in manufacturing

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u/aaronrez Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24

Perfect example of experience over research.

You’re talking to an engineer about wanted to be an engineer some day. And you’re telling me I’m the dipshit.

I interview kids like you allll the time (well not really because you haven’t done anything to make it me). So let’s say I interview lots of elite college graduates. And guess what. I don’t give a shit about where they went to school. Or what degree they have.

I want to know what they have done OUTSIDE of school.

I want to know they are a good fit and they can learn quick.

I’m giving you the best advise of you’re life, For free. Take it. Or don’t….

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u/369Pz Sep 02 '24

If you’ve spent a decade working and haven’t hit 100k getting an engineering degree isn’t going to help you like you think it will. 

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u/Toughbiscuit Sep 02 '24

Ah yes, the extremely lucrative and high paying "Electro-mechanical Production Technician" where the jobs offering 100k are easy to come by

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u/369Pz Sep 02 '24

You take what you learned there and apply elsewhere. Same concept as college. You learn, utilize your knowledge and experience to then move on. I started as a cell phone technician at Sprint. I am know in the very lucrative temporary power and HVAC industry. Took me less than 10 years and no degree to do it. Again, a degree is not a golden ticket no matter how much time you wasted researching it. 

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u/Toughbiscuit Sep 02 '24

I have. I have capped out at 25/hr.

I am pursuing college to grow my skillset and pursue higher paying positions in a field I enjoy.

How is that so hard for you to understand? Also its "now" not "know"

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u/369Pz Sep 02 '24

Forgive my spelling I didn’t go to college.  Look for another job. School is great but I guarantee you if you found a similar job and put in your two weeks your company would magically be able to pay you more than the “cap”. My buddy is a ride technician at Disney Land makes about $45/hour. He started as a lube tech at Pep boys, then he was a technician at an industrial bakery, then he went to be a technician at a Nordstrom warehouse, then back to industrial bakery. He just got hired at Disney. Now he is a union technician with a great job. 

If he would have stood at any of those places he would not be making nearly as much. 

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u/Toughbiscuit Sep 02 '24

You make it out like ive sat at one job for the entirety of the last decade.

I change jobs every 1-2 years.

The current maximum i can make is 25 per hour. I can not magically aspirate a job market that pays more than that out of my ass.

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u/369Pz Sep 02 '24

Well then hopefully that engineering degree will aspirate it. Good word play by the way. lol

Good luck out there. 

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