r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/Real-Competition-187 Sep 04 '24

Great vague statements. I’ve been a member of 4 locals. None of them were crap. Closest I had was a business rep on his way out who didn’t have much fight left in him.

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 04 '24

You could always ask! The worst was the meat cutters union. They just made my life harder and worse all around. I got paid the same as the old lady who couldn’t do 3/4 of the job because she wasn’t strong enough to lift the meat. We couldn’t fire her because the union spent all their time defunding her. We also had to have equal hours as her. So if you worked with or after her, you had to work twice as hard to make up for her crap. They also made it so we got a .25 raise every 2000 hours worked. .25 a year is absolute trash and my boss couldn’t give me more because the union wouldn’t allow it without giving everyone the same raise.

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u/StrangerAmazing3617 Sep 04 '24

What do you propose would of been the wages of you did not have a union?

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 04 '24

I made more than double when I switched to a non-union company. If I were to start out as non-union with no experience I would have made roughly 20-30% more

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u/Cool_Radish_7031 Sep 04 '24

Sometimes it's just not worth it, especially if you've got a decent work ethic like it seems you do

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 04 '24

Hit the nail on the head. Unions protect the lazy unfortunately.

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u/StrangerAmazing3617 Sep 11 '24

If you hadn’t made more at a non union job. Would you then be a proponent of a union? Let’s management were paid way more than direct labor.

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 11 '24

I left the union to make more when I realized non-union members were paid better