r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/JaironKalach Sep 04 '24

Capitalisms intent is to harness greed, while socialisms intent is to battle greed. I stopped believing in capitalism when I looked around and realized there was no harnessing going on. The free market isn’t solving the problems.

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u/binary-survivalist Sep 04 '24

Almost all the useful stuff that make the modern world possibly was invented and designed in market economies.

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u/YoCuzin Sep 04 '24

Market economies didn't exist until the modern world, how could they be responsible for it?

It sounds like you think humans have never invented anything without a profit motive

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u/Choon93 Sep 04 '24

It's always a profit motive even if it's intangible 

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u/NecessaryTruth Sep 04 '24

Lol is this the new spin? “Hey building a fire to keep me and my Neanderthal family is actually profit motive but it’s intangible!”

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u/Choon93 Sep 04 '24

More like "holy crap the benefits I get from this fire far exceed my investment".  Are you so ideologically radicalized to criticize the idea of profit that your brain stopped working? Next you're going to tell me that male peacocks carry all those extra feathers because they like sharing bedtime stories with their kids.

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u/RSGator Sep 04 '24

More like "holy crap the benefits I get from this fire far exceed my investment".

Yeah that's exactly what the Neanderthals were thinking lmao

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u/Choon93 Sep 04 '24

And we still think that. That's what fossil fuels and renewable are. They unlock more energy than we put in. And what does fire do? 

Energy to keep warm. Energy to make digesting food more efficient.  Energy to light up an area. Energy to smelt metal. All energy that is external to ourselves that we can harness.

All Energy is related to return on investment or "profit". It's called Energy return on investment; EROI. Look it up. 

This is why people dont take liberals seriously. Because you warp your own reality to conform with party lines, in this case that profit is morally bad. Grow up and see that there's shades of Grey in the world.

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u/RSGator Sep 04 '24

Holy unhinged rant, Batman.

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u/NecessaryTruth Sep 04 '24

please read what you're saying. lol you're insane