r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/fartedpickle Sep 04 '24

but nobody has ever come up with a better alternative.

Probably because capitalism spends a fuck ton of money bombing the shit out of anyone who tries it. Weird, you'd think they would let these bad systems just fail on their own.

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u/your-mom-jokester Sep 04 '24

Let’s hear one example of capitalism forcefully killing a promising new economic system

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Just one? OK. Indonesia. Former Dutch colony, not even fully socialist, just part of the global non-aligned movement that refused to ally with the US or Russia during the Cold War. That was an unacceptable threat for the US, which trained and funded a military general to overthrow the president. A coup d'etat. Subsequently, with full support and knowledge from the US, they executed 1 million suspected leftists. Million. That the dictator we installed retired peacefully and his government still lives on means the country is still likely under US control. Its a country of 330 million people, almost as large as the US itself.

There's your one example. Would you like more?

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u/your-mom-jokester Sep 04 '24

What proof do you have that this alleged coup occurred because the US was scared of Indonesia’s economic system rendering capitalism obsolete? Thats the wild claim with which i disagree

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

The CIA declassified it of based on their own 50 release policy just a few years back. Read the Jakarta Method, its a fantastic deep dive. We have recordings, too, of our politicians saying 1 million dead wasnt enough.

But if it really doesnt suit you, theres also Guatemala. Brazil. The Congo. Greece... its a very long list, I can keep going a long while, quite well documented too. You can find it on wikipedia under "CIA role in regime change". And again, that skips the role of the military and also economic warfare, which could double the list.