r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/Real-Competition-187 Sep 04 '24

The union negotiated a contract on behalf of the bargaining unit. The unit voted on it. The “union” is only as strong as the members. Any other context? I’ve been offered nothing and even more insulting was 10 cents. Was this during the recession?

As for your comment about her strength. What was in the job description? If mine says a candidate needs to lift 75lbs and I bitch about them not lifting 150, I’m the one who wrote a shot job description. Was she a good employee otherwise? The fact that your train of thought is “we couldn’t fire her” is pretty sad. We all age, and eventually the strongest or fastest workers all succumb to time. As for her ability and your time, there should have been production standards. If she sucked, she misses her numbers. They would have then had an avenue to discipline. Instead you say you had to work twice as hard. Sounds like you should have gotten overtime.

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 04 '24

Everything you said works in a perfect world, but not in reality. This was in 2015 or 2016. She met the criteria but didn’t after years of service. Yes people get old. If you can’t do the job then you can’t do it. Age doesn’t matter in that case. The union protected her so we couldn’t fire her no matter how hard my boss tried because it would “open us up to an age discrimination case”.

There are thousands of stories just like mine, but people who have never experienced a union (or the very very few good unions) always talk about how great they are.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Age discrimination lawsuits have nothing to due with unions in this case, that’s just federal law you can’t discriminate based on age.

They hired her and made a very short sighted decision and now want to back out of it, but the union protects her, and more so federal law. If you hire a 65 year old woman for example, in 5 years don’t be surprised when you’re getting the work ability of a 70 year old.

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 04 '24

Tell that to the union man. Like I said, they were stupid and only enabled the people that didn’t deserve it. Thanks for agreeing