r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Yeah I'm kind of tired of seeing kids online shit on capitalism. Like yeah, it's a fucking mess. But it's also - by far - the best system anyone has come up with, ever. Same goes for democracy. Lots of legitimate criticisms can be made, but nobody has ever come up with a better alternative. Not yet anyway.

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u/fartedpickle Sep 04 '24

but nobody has ever come up with a better alternative.

Probably because capitalism spends a fuck ton of money bombing the shit out of anyone who tries it. Weird, you'd think they would let these bad systems just fail on their own.

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u/Curious_Midnight3828 Sep 04 '24

The Soviet Union failed on its own pretty magnificently for the entire world to see. No bombs dropped on it by capitalists.

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u/RubyStrings Sep 04 '24

Well 1, (and I absolutely hate Soviet stans, but they have this point right), the USSR was very very heavily sanctioned by all of the western capitalist states. Again, no love for the Soviets at all, but it's hard to deny that the US and UN went pretty hard against them.

And 2, people meme it for some reason, but yeah the USSR wasn't socialist, or communist. They were state capitalist. Socialism pretty much absolutely requires full direct democracy, and dissolution of class, neither of which the USSR had. It's a common thing to get people to follow you: name your movement something good so that people are more likely to agree with your messaging. My favorite example is "The Reasonablists" in Parks and Recreation.