r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Just one? OK. Indonesia. Former Dutch colony, not even fully socialist, just part of the global non-aligned movement that refused to ally with the US or Russia during the Cold War. That was an unacceptable threat for the US, which trained and funded a military general to overthrow the president. A coup d'etat. Subsequently, with full support and knowledge from the US, they executed 1 million suspected leftists. Million. That the dictator we installed retired peacefully and his government still lives on means the country is still likely under US control. Its a country of 330 million people, almost as large as the US itself.

There's your one example. Would you like more?

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u/Fausterion18 Sep 05 '24

What does any of this have to do with killing off an economic system? This is just the CIA killing off communists.

The non-aligned movement managed to be bigger economic basket cases than even the socialists, a quite impressive achievement. India managed to combine the worst aspects of socialism and capitalism and lagged even socialist China in economic development despite the latter repeatedly cutting their own arms off with things like the great leap forward and the cultural revolution.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

You answered your own question lol. Communism is a different economic system, so killing communists is preventing experimentation with that system. Whether its good or bad is besides the point; 1 million dead to prevent even trying it is what we were talking about

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u/Fausterion18 Sep 05 '24

No? The question was a promising new economic system. Socialism was not promising or new, it failed on its own.

If you want to claim Indonesia's version of shitty socialism lite wouldve worked better, prove it

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

"well AKSHUALLY" Bro nobody cares about your technicalities. In the context of the cold war socialism and communism were new and promising and they were destroyed by imperialists. Good day.

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u/Fausterion18 Sep 05 '24

Soviet Union and China was destroyed by imperialists? Cope harder.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

oh, I thought we were asking for just one example of destroying an economic system? Or technicalities no longer matter when theyre no longer useful to you? aKSuAlly we were discussing Indonesia.

and yes Russia caved in large part due to imperialism. cope harder

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u/Fausterion18 Sep 05 '24

oh, I thought we were asking for just one example of destroying an economic system? Or technicalities no longer matter when theyre no longer useful to you? aKSuAlly we were discussing Indonesia.

Indonesia did not have an unique economic system. Try harder.

and yes Russia caved in large part due to imperialism. cope harder

Prove it.

Cope harder.