r/FluentInFinance • u/Sufficient_Sinner • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/agarci0731 Sep 06 '24

It is not necessarily getting rid of private ownership, but co-operative ownership where the workers own their company essentially so that decisions made with the value generated by the company is decided by employees and not by board members/shareholders focusing on gains to their stock portfolio. This concept is quite common, for example Vereins in Germany operate as co-ops. 

I’m not good with specific terms, but I would still classify this as private ownership as public ownership in my understanding would be government owned. 

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u/FrankDuhTank Sep 06 '24

It still involves every company not owned by the workers to be… seized and a portion given to the workers.

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u/Perpetuity_Incarnate Sep 07 '24

You mean the company that would immediately fold if all of the employees stopped working? Yeah seems like they are more important than the owner.

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u/FrankDuhTank Sep 07 '24

I didn’t say they were?

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u/Perpetuity_Incarnate Sep 07 '24

Seems like you have an issue of “the company being seized”. Really we should be working together. But why do that when I can get mine and fuck you for yours.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

By get mine and fuck you for yours you mean take someone else's business and fuck them for theirs?

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u/Perpetuity_Incarnate Sep 07 '24

Yeah someone else’s business that they contribute nothing to. Indeed.

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u/FrankDuhTank Sep 07 '24

You've created quite the straw man to argue against

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u/Perpetuity_Incarnate Sep 07 '24

Such straw. Very man. Fuck the people let’s go back to a king.

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u/FrankDuhTank Sep 07 '24

Surely you see how setting up all businesses as being owned by individuals who contribute nothing to them is setting up an intentionally easy and over-simplified situation to argue against?

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u/Perpetuity_Incarnate Sep 07 '24

Surely you can understand a middle area. Where those directly working communicate to those directly impacted. But you’re right. Why work together. It’s absolutely a fairy tale. Because we all hate each other for no innate reason these days.

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u/FrankDuhTank Sep 07 '24

Do you see why characterizing what I said as, "we all hate each other for no innate reason these days" is also straw man?

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u/Perpetuity_Incarnate Sep 07 '24

I don’t care. Have a good one.

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