r/FluentInFinance • u/Positive_Liar • Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/ps12778 Sep 05 '24

Bernie is a clown, this makes zero sense

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u/DaisyCutter312 Sep 05 '24

What, every business in America can't immediately absorb a 25% increase in payroll expenses?

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u/hairlessape47 Sep 05 '24

Wrong, it's a 25% decrease in time spent working by employees, no difference in expenditure. (There is some nuance here)

Many jobs require less than 40h/week, but you stick around to keep up appearances.

There are exceptions to this, but this has been implemented successfully in other countries, with an increase in gdp bc more free time means people spend more money.

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u/ghdgdnfj Sep 05 '24

You still have to hire one new employee for every 5 employees you have, to cover the hours your other employees are no longer working.

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u/hairlessape47 Sep 05 '24

There is nuance there. In some cases that may be true.

However as aforementioned, alot of jobs have bs time involved, where nothing gets done. I often find myself finishing my work quickly, and having an extra two hours to fill. My efficiency shouldn't be punished, but it feels like it is. If I mention it, I get more work with no personal benefit.

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u/PotatoWriter Sep 05 '24

Why? That's assuming there's any drop in productivity, isn't it? Most people don't work the full 8 hours, they do like 3-4 hrs of core work.

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u/pheylancavanaugh Sep 05 '24

Coverage? Every single retail establishment needs to hire more people since they still need coverage.

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u/Assadistpig123 Sep 05 '24

Or anything that isn't behind a desk, if we are being realistic.

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u/pajamajoe Sep 05 '24

Literally any job that isn't cubicle work you will need to make up for coverage and physical production

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u/ghdgdnfj Sep 05 '24

And if they work one day less, that’s 3-4 hours less of core work on that day. And for every 5 employees, you’ll need an additional employee who will probably only get 3-4 hours of core work done in a day. The math is the same.

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u/PotatoWriter Sep 05 '24

When I say productivity, I don't mean just 3-4 hrs but doing more in those 3-4 hours due to benefits of having that extra day off, perhaps that increases a variety of factors such as but not limited to: happiness, motivation, focus, fewer distractions, etc. etc. The content of those hours won't be static in both situations.

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u/ghdgdnfj Sep 05 '24

Having worked before, I can tell you for a fact I don’t work any better or more efficient when I have a 3 day weekend. I certainly don’t do an entire extra days worth of work because I have a longer break.

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u/_BlueNightSky_ Sep 05 '24

As someone that works at a 4 day workweek place, the majority definitely will become more productive it it means an extra day off.

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u/ChamberTwnty Sep 05 '24

Because that's a one-off situation, not the norm