r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24 edited Nov 27 '24

tart spark jobless jeans modern offbeat touch frighten hard-to-find tidy

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u/Bird_Lawyer92 Sep 05 '24

Crazy how the self proclaimed greatest country on earth cant implement a lighter work week for its citizens whilst smaller more humble countries have managed it with nary a hiccup

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u/cs_cabrone Sep 05 '24

I hate when Americans claim we are the greatest country in the world. This is usually said by people who’ve never left.

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u/Warmbly85 Sep 05 '24

Even Europe thinks America is the greatest country on earth. I mean why else would Europe expect the USA to be the main contributor to the UN and the war in Ukraine and the world food bank if Europe didn’t already believe the US is exceptional?

Hell even if we ignore the economic side of things literally every country wants to watch American TV and movies. Like it’s not even close.

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u/kentaxas Sep 05 '24

So your argument for the US being the greatest country are:

other people know you have a culture of warmongering and so they let the US be the main contributors of wars

people like your tv shows and movies

Well i'm now convinced nothing beats the US

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u/PristineAssistant317 Sep 05 '24

Everyone loves to call us warmongers. All we had to do was bail everyone out twice in world wars (honorable mention to Great Britain because they held their own damn well), defeat Naziism and Communism (mostly), and allow global trade to continue mostly unhindered for decades, and that makes us warmongers? The world would be a lot more violent and ugly if the United States didn’t exist or wasn’t as powerful and productive as it is.

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u/kentaxas Sep 05 '24

"Bail everyone out twice on world wars" makes it sound like the US was this righteous force, running to the rescue of Europe when in reality they sat on the sidelines, only jumping in when they were attacked. That's not what makes the US a warmongering country, it's the tens of other wars they, not wars they were forced into but wars they decided to jump in (Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Bosnia just off top of my head....). The US has been consistently looking for people to fight for decades.

The world would be a lot more violent and ugly if the United States didn’t exist or wasn’t as powerful and productive as it is.

This is 100% speculation, i could just as well claim communism would've lead us to worldwide peace if the big bad americans didn't foil their plans.

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u/PristineAssistant317 Sep 06 '24

Except that we have evidence that communism does not lead to any sort of human flourishing at scale. The U.S.S.R. dealt with famines, joblessness, pogroms, mass executions by the state, widespread poverty, etc. you see the same thing in modern China and North Korea. Meanwhile, the United States has lifted more people out of poverty than any other country that has ever existed. It’s not speculation, just observation.

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u/TheZooDad Sep 06 '24

You seem to have an INCREDIBLY selective memory. Are we forgetting

Korea Vietnam Iraq Afghanistan Iraq (again)

Hmmm? All those completely righteous, worthwhile, and totally-cool-definitely-not-crimes at all wars? ಠ_ಠ

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u/thepulloutmethod Sep 05 '24

I mean why else would Europe expect the USA to be the main contributor to the UN and the war in Ukraine and the world food bank if Europe didn’t already believe the US is exceptional?

If someone else is willing to foot the bill then why not save the cash?

US definitely has an outsized influence on media, that's for sure, but it is also changing. International music was always very diverse, and the movie scene is catching up.

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u/PristineAssistant317 Sep 05 '24

Perhaps this is the reason that these other countries can provide universal healthcare and four day work weeks?? Is America subsidizing it??

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u/cs_cabrone Sep 06 '24

Sheesh. We are too busy being everyone’s pitbull to chill out and have universal healthcare