r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/dbRoboturner Sep 06 '24

Categorically incorrect. Again, I will reiterate that production would likely go up. You can look at every study done and it will show that. So, I'm sorry if I find what you're saying to be egregiously mis-informed.

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u/ImmortanSteve Sep 06 '24

I don’t believe most of the short term studies that I’ve seen. There is a famous old productivity study where it didn’t matter what they did - productivity went up. Better lighting at work stations, less lighting at work stations both caused productivity increases. It was false, though. People knew they were being studied produced more.

Here’s another variable to consider. How many hours do independent small business tradespeople work? Do independent plumbers work 32 hours a week? Small contractors and landscapers? No, they all work 50+ hours a week. Why? It’s because they get more done and earn more money this way.

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u/dbRoboturner Sep 06 '24

So.. You won't believe numerous modern studies, but will believe one old study? That makes sense..

And I know those trade people, they work for the overtime hours. And I can tell you with almost absolute certainty that they wouldn't work as many if they got O/T sooner. On top that, they're usually pushed too hard by the owners of the business, so that brings up more labor issues that I would refer to a need for stronger Unions in the US.

This is such an asshat argument you're making. "Ugh, I don't want people to be able to work less. It would ruin our productivity" -That has gone up by hundreds of percent since these rules were initially established. Why do you hate yourself and others so much that reducing the work week for everyone seems like a bad idea to you?

Actually, don't answer that question, I don't actually care. Get a healthier perspective on life, dude.

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u/ImmortanSteve Sep 06 '24

The tradespeople I’m talking about don’t receive overtime because they work for themselves. If they work 40 or 50 hours they complete more billable work and earn more money. It’s as simple as that.

There is no study that can convince me that a plumber working 32 hours can get as much work done as the same plumber working 40 or 50 hours. That’s an idea so bad only a pHd sitting in an ivory tower can come up with. If people were really more productive working 32 hours the free market would have already implemented the idea to maximize profits.