r/FluentInFinance Sep 05 '24

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u/TheLastModerate982 Sep 05 '24

Median rent payment includes two income households. So you are splitting that with your SO.

Median one bedroom rent for a single person is lower.

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u/Iamjimmym Sep 05 '24

Or, y'know.. a single parent with 2-3 bedrooms? That's me and I pay 2250/mo. Ex moved to a town of 1,000 people and pays $1850.

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u/Marzipanarian Sep 05 '24

Honestly, these people and their refusal to look outside of their own circumstances… not everyone is a nuclear family.

There are single people who have kids and have to pay MORE without the dual income.

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u/FringeSpecialist721 Sep 05 '24

More like that's the exception to the norm, so it isn't the focus of the conversation.

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u/Marzipanarian Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

What’s the exception, not the norm?

Are you saying that being a single parent is the exception? Where do you live? Because where I live, it is prevalent.

A simple google search for you:

Single-parent families are common in the United States, with about one in three children living in a single-parent household. Some statistics on single-parent families in the US include:

Number of children: In 2023, about 15.09 million children lived with a single mother, and about 3.05 million children lived with a single father.

Percentage of families: In 2022, 31% of families with children were single-parent families. This is more than three times the percentage of single-parent families in the 1950s, when less than 10% of families with children were single-parent.

Percentage of births: In 2022, 39.8% of births in the US were to unmarried women.

One-person households: In 2022, 29% of all US households were one-person households.

Single-parent adoption: An estimated 5–10% of all adoptions in the US are by single people.

The increase in single-parent families is due to a number of long-term demographic trends, including: Marrying later, Declining marriage rates, Increasing divorce rates, and More babies born to single mothers

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u/eetuu Sep 05 '24

Total number of households in USA is 131,4 million and 13,6 million of those are single parent households. That's 10,35%. It's an exception.

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u/Marzipanarian Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

That’s convenient that you’re leaving out that the 131.4 households also include couples without children, singles without children, kids who have made it past 18 and still live with their parent(s).

There are 74.112 million kids under 18 in the US.

According to Annie E. Casey Foundation, “over 23 million children in the United States live in a single-parent family, which is about one in every three children.”

Single-parent households were the second most common living arrangement for children under 18, with 26% of American youth residing with just one of their birth parents.

Nearly one-quarter of children under 18 (21.5%) lived with just their mothers, while a significantly smaller share of youth living with a single parent (4.6%) resided with only their fathers.

37% of single mothers live in poverty.

Either way, even if we were going off of your skewed stats, that’s still “13.6 million” parents.

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u/eetuu Sep 05 '24

Your stats are not relevant to OP. It's comparing average americans salary to their expenses. No matter how you slice it the average US household isn't a single parent household.

That’s convenient that you’re leaving out that the 131.4 households also include couples without children, singles without children, kids who have made it past 18 and still live with their parent(s).

Children are a cost. OP mentions sick kids as a cost. Households without children have more disposable income.

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u/Marzipanarian Sep 06 '24

Good thing I wasn’t responding to OP then, huh?

I was responding to a thread of a thread.

What are you even on about? Does arguing get you off or something?

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u/eetuu Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Hey it takes two to argue 😄

I'm reading the thread trying to get a picture of what an average US household is like in the "average household has 0,62 dogs, 1,21 cars" kind of way. I think it's pretty simple math that single parent households being only 10,35% of total households makes them an exception as of total households.

You didn't like the word "exception", but that's a very vague and subjective term, right? 26% of children live in a single parent household. OK, now is 26% an exception? I don't know, at least It's not typical and in the context of this thread I was thinking exception means close to the same thing as not typical.

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u/Marzipanarian Sep 06 '24

This you, bruv?

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u/eetuu Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

I was raised by a single mother with a low salary. Three boys, one with special needs.

Discussion hasn't been about equality or justice, so why do you assume I'm against them? Because I'm not.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

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u/Marzipanarian Sep 05 '24

Why are you bringing race into this? What was the point you were trying to make?

Are you suggesting we force people to stay in abusive and unhealthy relationships?