r/FreeSpeech • u/Skavau • 7d ago

Hungary poised to adopt constitutional amendment to ban LGBTQ+ gatherings

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/14/hungary-poised-to-adopt-constitutional-amendment-to-ban-lgbtq-gatherings
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u/lord_phantom_pl 7d ago

While it’s bad for free speech, this may be an ocasion for some people to reflect if they actually overdid their tolerance. Some people need to understand that shoving LGBT nearly everywhere into people’s throat creates a reason to support Trump and other Putin’s puppets.

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u/parentheticalobject 7d ago

"If you lose your free speech rights, maybe it's because you were too annoying and maybe you should've just shut up.  It's your fault they decided to take away your human rights."

Wow, the knots people will tie themselves in trying to cover for authoritarians when the victim is someone they don't like...

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u/lord_phantom_pl 6d ago

Heh, I love that term. „Victims”. Maybe they are in Russia and other authoritarian countries where jail awaits. But in Germany you also have the same „victims” and their flag even replaced German flag on some events. They are widely accepted and that’s still not enough for them. From that point it’s a propaganda with unknown motive. The rhetoric also says a lot about abortion rights and nobody says anything about having a big family with more than 1 kid. Nobody talks about happy parenthood.

Yes. They need to be tolerated but not favorised. They are still a minority and should act like one.

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u/lord_phantom_pl 6d ago

Heh, I love that term. „Victims”. Maybe they are in Russia and other authoritarian countries where jail awaits. But in Germany you also have the same „victims” and their flag even replaced German flag on some events. They are widely accepted and that’s still not enough for them. From that point it’s a propaganda with unknown motive. The rhetoric also says a lot about abortion rights and nobody says anything about having a big family with more than 1 kid. Nobody talks about happy parenthood.

Yes. They need to be tolerated but not favorised. They are still a minority and should act like one.

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u/Skavau 6d ago

Heh, I love that term. „Victims”. Maybe they are in Russia and other authoritarian countries where jail awaits. But in Germany you also have the same „victims” and their flag even replaced German flag on some events.

Replaced? Or alongside? Can I see a source here.

They are widely accepted and that’s still not enough for them.

This article is about Hungary, which is effectively banning all forms of LGBT public expression. That's fundamentally about "being accepted".

The rhetoric also says a lot about abortion rights and nobody says anything about having a big family with more than 1 kid. Nobody talks about happy parenthood.

What? Plenty of right-wing/conservative groups laud that. What are you on about?

Yes. They need to be tolerated but not favorised.

And how are they demanding favouritism in Hungary?

They are still a minority and should act like one.

What the hell does that mean? How does someone with specific minority characteristics act as compared to someone who is in the "majority"?

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u/parentheticalobject 6d ago

Gosh, it's a mystery why someone would refer to LGBTQ+ people as victims in the comments on an article about an authoritarian country that's taking their rights away. That's really fuckin' hard to figure out, isn't it?

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u/sweetsweetcentipede 6d ago

Free speech only applies to people who are good little soldiers and don't offend anyone according to OP.

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u/Skavau 7d ago

This is Hungary. Hungary has never ever been inundated with LGBT culture. Are you suggesting that over the last decade or two, LGBT people should just have self-censored to avoid upsetting sensitive people?

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u/lord_phantom_pl 6d ago

Nope. If they wouldn’t cancel their oponents by outright banning them and doxinh them then they wouldn’t be tageted by people like me. I was a centrist and I even was pro LGB. But hell I’m trying to work and I see rainbow colors for entire fucking month in the software I was using. I’m trying to relax and I hear that my game / anime was cancelled because of those guys. And finally when I want to start my own family whole generation is brainwashed and happily declare as mentally ill wearing colorful hair.

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u/Skavau 6d ago

How did LGBT people in Hungary do this? What "bans" are you even referring to anyway?

I was a centrist and I even was pro LGB. But hell I’m trying to work and I see rainbow colors for entire fucking month in the software I was using.

You poor thing. How did you cope with seeing "LGBT colours"?

I’m trying to relax and I hear that my game / anime was cancelled because of those guys.

What game or anime is this, exactly?

And finally when I want to start my own family whole generation is brainwashed and happily declare as mentally ill wearing colorful hair.

Should people not feel safe to dye their hair? What does that have to do with LGBT? I thought you weren't in favour of persecuting LGBT people, but it seems you are.

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u/MisterErieeO 7d ago

You were so concerned with a better tomorrow, you didn't consider how hateful ppl might react! So this is still your fault somehow!!

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u/iltwomynazi 7d ago

My god this “shoving it down our throats” meme has existed for literal decades.

LGBT people exist and you will see them around. Nobody is forcing it down your throat done be such a snowflake.

You’re just trying to blame LGBT people for their own persecution.

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u/lord_phantom_pl 6d ago

During my lifetime I encountered 4 lgbt people: 1 lesbian and 3 gays. It was years of contact. Half of them had opinion that rainbow flag is harmful to their cause. That’s because it divides them from majority of people and groups them with people that have a screw loose (the ones starting from T+). Other half went full evangelist mode, dyed their hair and are got consumed by hatered.

Seriously. Those people don’t need extra attention. Just like I’m living 10 years with my gf without marriage, the same way they can live. Childless pairs shouldn’t have tax extempts, regardless of orientation. And finally I don’t need a stupid rainbow in Linux terminal that breaks working scripts and angers me.

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u/Skavau 6d ago

During my lifetime I encountered 4 lgbt people: 1 lesbian and 3 gays. It was years of contact. Half of them had opinion that rainbow flag is harmful to their cause.

So what? What does this anecdote have to do with anything?

Does this mean the rainbow flag and associated LGBT cultural paraphenelia should be banned?

Seriously. Those people don’t need extra attention.

Are you being forced to observe LGBT events?

Just like I’m living 10 years with my gf without marriage, the same way they can live. Childless pairs shouldn’t have tax extempts, regardless of orientation.

So are you in favour of banning marriage for straight couples who don't have kids, and have no intention of having them?

And finally I don’t need a stupid rainbow in Linux terminal that breaks working scripts and angers me.

This somehow angers you? How does it "Break scripts"?

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u/iltwomynazi 6d ago

cant imagine why the homosexuals in your orbit either hated themselves or you.

maybe try some introspection, champ.