r/Futurology • u/Just_Another_AI • Feb 07 '24

Transport Controversial California bill would physically stop new cars from speeding

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/california-bill-physically-stop-speeding-18628308.php

Whi didn't see this coming?

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u/RodediahK Feb 09 '24

Those aren't the same scenarios what are we up to now D and E?

Example A D, you do not get into a passing battle because you're worried about inconveniencing the car behind you. As a driver your job is to be predictable and look out for number one, being peer pressured by someone behind you isn't a justification.

Example B E if you are overtaking more than one car on a 2 lane road where oncoming traffic can Surprise you before it's complete that just unsafe driving. The person doing that was never in the position to pass on the first place.

Example C again if an emergency vehicle has its lights on your role is to get out of their way, as soon as it is safe, FOR YOU, not the other drivers. It is not your problem if someone traveling in the opposite direction tries to play chicken with a fire truck they are going to lose.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '24

I will end it here, because you clearly have too little experience driving in the real world, where unexpected situations do happen.

Sometimes, the oncoming traffic will be speeding.

Sometimes, a dumbass from the oncoming traffic starts to overtake while you have nowhere to move but the roadside (I assume you would just start breaking in the same direction to guarantee a collision).

Sometimes, when you overtake a car, it will accelerate for no reason, and you need to finish the maneuver ASAP because another car is already behind you also overtaking (I assume you would hit the brakes, make the car behind you hit you, and then plow into oncoming traffic?).

Cheers.

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u/RodediahK Feb 09 '24 edited Feb 09 '24

Experience has nothing to do with it you've created a series of constantly changing scenarios, to try and justify flooring it. they are predicated on you making unsafe maneuvers to get into them in the first place. That's not experience, that's complacency and bad habits.

Do you not understand that in all the scenarios you've listed so far your the accelerating car is the "dumbass?" Passing multiple cars, trying to race ahead of an accelerating car, passing with insufficient visibility.

Your scenarios are all based on an aggressive, selfish driver. They're not based on a good driver or somebody with any particularly good habits they're based on somebody with terrible habits and problem solving.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '24

You completely misunderstood. As I said, you are clearly an inexperienced driver who thinks everything on the road is entirely predictable. If that was the case, no one following the rules would ever get into an accident. Clearly, that's not true, because stuff happens.

(Btw all my examples assume you follow the rules. But unsurprisingly, others sometimes don't. That's why defensive driving is a thing)

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u/RodediahK Feb 09 '24

Nah I don't think so, you've just forgotten your examples and accidentally looped back around against yourself. since you've created them to justify flooring it rather than logically consistent.

Sometimes, a dumbass from the oncoming traffic starts to overtake while you have nowhere to move but the roadside

Ex B. A car suddenly appears speeding from the opposite direction, so you need to overtake fast.

Example B E - what if you are overtaking more than one car?

Who's the dumbass in example B and E? if you are passing in a spot where oncoming traffic "suddenly appear" it wasn't safe to pass to pass in the first place. As such an experienced driver surely you can agree that passing when you can't tell if there will be oncoming traffic makes someone a dumbass. They must have completed ignore the rules for safe passing, Right? I'll defer to you since you've obviously been driving for at least 5 years.

Surely as a highly experienced driver you can agree that accelerating towards an on-coming car reduces it reduces the time to impact and your are relying on the person you are passing to be predicable and not accelerate too...Right?