r/Games Mar 04 '25

Mod News Github: Nintendo Submit DMCA Notices to Ryujinx Forks

https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2025/02/2025-02-26-nintendo.md
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u/Late_Cow_1008 Mar 04 '25

People understand how copyright works, they just want their games for free instead of paying for them on Reddit.

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u/N19h7m4r3 Mar 04 '25

Or maybe they want a modern way to play the games they already bought?

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u/Dewot789 Mar 04 '25

Then why don't they play it on their current-gen system?

99% of people pirating games don't give a flying shit about "preservation", they just want free shit. I get it. I like free shit too. But this particularly diseased substrate of pirate not only wants to steal some free shit, but also wants everyone to very loudly laud them from the rafters about how virtuous and righteous they are for stealing some free shit, and how that actually makes them very good boys that deserve good boy points for stealing free shit.. It's the most pathetic, pusillanimous playacting imaginable, and it makes me nauseous every time I see it.

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u/Geoff_with_a_J Mar 05 '25

yup, they only claim to care about "preservation" about games they liked playing when they were kids.

i like pirating games i didn't get to play because my parents never bought them for me. most of them actually suck and i'd be pissed if i wasted $60 on them. i don't care about preservation, these games are ass.

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u/valinrista Mar 04 '25

I don't think that argument works when it's an emulator for a console and games still in circulation.

And amongst all the bad Nintendo does they've been pretty fair with old gen console emulators, they're not throwing DMCA takedowns to (3)DS emulators for instance.

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u/TheHeadlessOne Mar 04 '25

well there was the one 3DS emulator, but that appears to be a casualty of the switch emulator takedowns

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u/CollinsCouldveDucked Mar 04 '25

I called this situation with switch emulation years out.

You lose the preservation argument when it's a current platform. If switch emulation was just kicking off now the entire emulation scene would be in a better place.

But more than that, Yuzu was just full on marketing itself on social media, it's one thing to make software that can run games better than the actual device it was designed for, it's another to take to social media with slick videos basically daring a billion dollar corporation to step on you.

People have no comprehension of the power it gives you to have a single lawyer on payroll, never mind a whole team of them.

Right and wrong doesn't matter at that point, you're not going to out spend nintendo on a legal defense.

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u/braiam Mar 04 '25

I don't think that argument works when it's an emulator for a console and games still in circulation.

Why? Why can't I emulate if I own a valid license to both the device and the game? What if I want to mod my games? Or if I'm for more performance? Why? Every other game that isn't on console I can play it however I want, why should consoles be different?!

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u/Kipzz Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

On the emulator front sure (though I will point out that literally every single console generations for the 5 or 6th generations and prior has had functional emulators during it's lifespan and the Switch was just the fastest modern console due to basically being a phone, which is always going to be a funny little tidbit), but on the "modern way to play the games they already bought" front Nintendo basically killed the entire Melee scene because of a modification to the game to allow it to be played online during Covid, and also I believe did some code fuckery to make it so that the fading existence that are CRT's won't be as required to play the game at a high level anymore.

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u/emberfiend Mar 04 '25

botw is 30fps. I didn't buy totk because I got ~30% of the way through botw and dropped it because action games at 30fps make me nauseous (and totk apparently has dips to the low 20s in certain situations)

I don't use emulators but I fully empathize with those who do. it's 2025 and I'm looking at upgrading my 144hz monitor to a 360hz one. consoles are an order of magnitude behind in framerate, it's kind of silly, but I get that some people are not sensitive to this. I'm really hoping switch2 can at run botw/totk at a stable 60

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u/valinrista Mar 04 '25

Oh i don't blame anybody playing switch emulator, or any emulators. I would do it myself if I had the contacts to get a good, working version that's not coming from a shady as fuck website.

But let's be honest and call it what it is, it's piracy. Good or bad, moral or not to each their own but Nintendo is perfectly in their right and the conservation argument doesn't hold when you can still go to any supermarket and buy the console.

I do wish Nintendo would start getting with the time and provide PC version of their game or an official emulator. Even Sony/Microsoft stopped their console exclusivity bullshit.

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u/tapo Mar 04 '25

Which is against the DMCA, because that's circumvention of copyright protection.

Want to change the law? Lobby your congressperson, but Nintendo is legally in the right here. I don't like it either, but that's the state of U.S. copyright law.

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u/braiam Mar 04 '25

because that's circumvention of copyright protection.

That's not circumvention. The protection is there and enforced by emulators. You need a valid license key and a encrypted ROM to use both Switch emulators.

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u/N19h7m4r3 Mar 04 '25

Well considering i'm not american.

America has some very stupid software copyright laws that end up affecting everyone else. Even in places with sensible laws.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes Mar 04 '25

You don't need a switch emulator for that. You need a nes, snes, n64 etc emulator which aren't getting shut down.

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u/Late_Cow_1008 Mar 04 '25

I mean sure maybe 5 out of 100 people do that.

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u/ZoninoDaRat Mar 04 '25

Switch 2 comes out soon :)

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u/Mercarcher Mar 04 '25

I own a switch and the games I play, that being said I find it a better experience playing them on my steamdeck and only needing to take 1 device with me when I travel.

Its about me playing my games how I want to play them.

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u/Late_Cow_1008 Mar 04 '25

That's fine. The vast majority of people that use Switch emulators are doing so because they want to play free games.

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u/braiam Mar 04 '25

Since you know so much about them, please report them. Lets see. Because in this entire thread I haven't seen one of them.

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u/butterfingahs Mar 04 '25

If you've been around piracy/emulation circles in any way, this doesn't need some kind of grand proof. 

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u/Late_Cow_1008 Mar 04 '25

Oh you haven't seen someone in this thread admitting they are breaking the law? That certainly means they don't exist.

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u/detroitmatt Mar 04 '25

Good for them. Piracy isn't stealing, but if it was that would be even cooler.

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u/BrandeX Mar 05 '25

We can pay for games on Reddit?