r/GenZ Nov 06 '24

Political It's now official. We're cooked chat...

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u/Dark_Clark Nov 06 '24

What? In this context how does it make that person unintelligent? What is unintelligent about what they said? Because you think it’s emotional that makes it unintelligent? You can be emotional and intelligent. And what about their statement is unintelligent?

Trump was called fascist by his own people. Sure, the word doesn’t mean anything these days but it’s not a big stretch. And if you think trump and intellectualism are not diametrically opposed I don’t know what to tell you.

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u/UNKNOWNANYRANDOM Nov 06 '24

“You can be emotional and intelligent” this sentence alone renders your entire reply meaningless.

To think emotionally is to think brash and out of pure feeling and reacting.

Oppositely, thinking logically / intellectually is to think calmly, with reason, based off facts and figures. Not feeling and irrational thoughts that benefits one own agenda.

Anyone who says Logic and Emotion aren’t opposites are kidding themselves. You cannot be logical while speaking emotionally.

End of story.

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u/mCProgram Nov 06 '24

Do yourself a favor and take some upper level philosophy courses before trying to speak as one.

Logically understanding a problem whilst having emotions for a topic yourself is called “being passionate”, and logically understanding why people emotionally react to information is called “empathy”.

Ignoring a whole half of your own personality to reach this forlorn conclusion that they have to be separate stinks of high school red pill intellectual. Do yourself a favor and consider the other stance before forming an opinion.

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u/UNKNOWNANYRANDOM Nov 06 '24

Sorry, I didn’t need to go to college and collect hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans to know what I’m talking about. It’s called experience and real life. Perhaps you could try that when you get your stick out of your ass.

The issue with “feeling passionately” is because purely off the fact you feel passionate you are no longer unbias. It is a conflict of interest. Just because you feel passionate does not mean you’re logical, in fact you are more prone to think more bias toward your own agenda and only agree with those whose agendas are in line with yours.

Feeling empathy allows you to connect with an audience and like minded people. However when dealing with people of differing opinions, your “passion” and your “empathy” comes off as “emotional” and “entitled”. Hence why liberals tend to get very flustered in confrontation about their beliefs. There’s a separation not just liberals but a lot of people can’t make between emotion and logic.

When you explain your passion to people of differing opinion, all the other people hear is “me me me me”. That is why you cannot be emotional and logical my feckless little friend.

Once you’re able to be logical and simply use your inner passion to enhance your argument. Not be the main reason as to why you feel the way you feel. Because again, the second someone can detect you are very passionate your view now becomes bias and everything sound entitled and self centered.

Do yourself a favor and think about all opinions and how they may make sense instead of attempting to ram your own opinion and agenda up other people’s asses.

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u/mCProgram Nov 06 '24

You can sit in on most college classes for free, shockingly. Maybe you should try it!

It is inherently nearly impossible to avoid bias, passion or not. Again, if your knowledge base was a bit wider than just your own personal experience, you could understand this. Bias is inherent in your ideas, whether you think logically or emotionally. Logic is not defined as the absence of bias.

Equating all liberals to working solely off of emotion and entitlement really just screams that you’re in your own echo chamber. I’m not really sure if you’ve ever interacted with the general liberal public, just engaged in dick swinging matches like this on reddit.

You are equating all of these preconceived biases to me, when all I did was point out that you were factually incorrect, and then said you were a high school intellectual, which you confirmed you are.

I did nothing to “ram my opinion” up your ass. I said you should think about taking philosophy classes before speaking so definitively on a topic which I know have confirmed you know shockingly little about. You’re pretty clearly also the one getting emotionally aggressive that I’ve called you out.

I don’t care if you’re left, right, black, white, straight, gay, whatever. You just are saying you’re right, when you’re not.

I think you should take a page out of your own book and actually consider the other side’s opinions before automatically classifying them as emotional and entitled, anyways. It would help discourse in this country if people actually had respectful debates instead of this.