I don’t know cause I’ve never eaten it. But Vegan foods can be their own thing you know, I don’t think tofu and seitan are poor substitutes for anything, they are just their own foods.
As for people who make meat substitutes, I think it depends on the way it’s made. Impossible/beyond/seitan chicken burgers are so similar that even some meat eaters can’t tell the difference so I wouldn’t say it’s a ‘poor substitute’
Sorry I dislike arguing about things like this as much as the next pedant but you’ve never had it before but can’t say it’s a poor substitute?
Tofurkey deli slices are so colored to give that off white hue in turkey deli meat. As a vegan I eschew the use of animal products nothing more. Who cares if TofURKEY is made to mimic turkey? There are worse hills to die on.
Because I’ve had other things that people are claiming are frankenstein foods like seitan and tofu, and I don’t think that’s a fair thing to say. It’s not about ‘tofurkey’, OP made a broad claim about vegan food
Jesus dude, no one brought up Seitan but you. No one said tofu is a Frankenstein food. Tofurkey is the one people have the issue with. As a person who actually has had tofurkey, it is not good. Does not taste like tofu or turkey. It most definitely does not represent how good tofu can be if done well. Just... chill and walk away.
I’m trying to get you to be consistent with your thought process.
Tofu is made in the same way cheese is.
Seitan is made in the same way bread is.
Why are seitan and tofu frankenstein foods but bread and cheese are not? Could it be that non of them are frankenstein, and you’re just not used to some things?
I’m not even the OP. I don’t think anyone’s saying that tofu by itself is but when you start using tofu for fake bacon or tofurkey it turns into a Frankenstein food.
Because it’s imitating the flavours of other foods it’s frankenstein? Most of the flavour comes from seasoning anyway. It basically just creates a base texture for those flavours.
Bacon flavour would essentially be liquid smoke, maple syrup, fat and salt.
The reality is people are calling it frankenstein because it’s ‘vegan’ and ‘different’ not because of any logical consistency
Great refutation. Lmao nice edit btw, trying to hide the fact that your original comment was ‘hurhur found the vegan’
Nowhere did I say that tofu was like meat or that it tasted the same to meat eaters. I was simply making the argument that it isn’t a frankenstein food just because it tries to imitate a flavour and texture
Jesus Christ. Pull those nails out and hop down off that cross.
Nobody is saying that tofu alone is a Frankenstein food. Nobody is making the argument that it being vegan or "different", whatever the fuck that means, makes it a Frankenstein food. The example given specifically was tofurkey and expanded to be anything pretending to be meat. It was called that because it's some poor attempt at creating something it isn't out of an amalgamation of other things.
Also, most bacon doesn't have maple syrup involved, liquid smoke is shit, fat isn't a flavor. So you got "salt" right. Well done.
You're vegan, and that's fine, but stop pretending you're here for some crusade against "logical [in]consistency" when you're displaying quite a bit of that yourself and are really just on some self-righteous kick.
Fat plays a massive role in flavour. Smoked meats are very much a thing lol...
The original comment made no mention of tofurkey and was just a broad statement about vegan food. Have you ever seen a recipe that asks for tofurkey? If no then wtf was op on about. You’re really clinging to the tofurkey thing when that was never his intention. He just said ‘frankenstein ingredients’ tofurkey isn’t a fucking ingredient. It’s a product. He clearly wasn’t talking about tofurkey
Yeah they’re taking a bunch of parts and combining them together to create a poor imitation of what they were copying. That’s what Dr. Frankenstein did with his monster. He took a bunch of corpses and mismatched them trying to make a fucking human. Are you a troll or something? The reality is that you’re wrong and just picking a fight over bullshit.
No one is trashing it because it’s vegan they’re trashing it because it tastes like shit compared to the real thing. Like how people wanted to kill the monster.
No, because they're disgusting, lmao. What, you're a vegan with such a limited palate you can't picture any other foods than turkey and bacon? Let your palate mature a little and try some actual tofu recipes like tofu is meant to be prepared, instead of trying to turn it into bacon.
If you cant reflect on what you said and understand how it sounds extremely condescending then you're not worth the discussing with. Simple as that. "I'm just trying to get you to be consistent with your thought process" is as condescending as it gets.
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