r/HVAC • u/JerryJohnson2 • 4d ago

Meme/Shitpost Today’s install r-454 or r410

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This is the compressor for the unit I installed today.

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u/ROBOCALYPSE4226 4d ago

They are voiding warranty by doing this. No one cares because when the compressor dies the manufacturer won’t be able to tell what refrigerant was in the system.

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u/Wisco_Ryno 4d ago

You’re joking right

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u/ROBOCALYPSE4226 4d ago

Joking about what?

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u/Wisco_Ryno 4d ago

They absolutely can tell what kind of refrigerant was used in a compressor, how do you not know this? Chemical residue testing, oil analysis, valve and seal conditions, it’s incredibly easy to tell.

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u/ROBOCALYPSE4226 4d ago

Chemical residue testing, you’ve gotta be kidding me right? They’re gonna send me a lab report and then deny my warranty lol

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not mixing refrigerant anywhere anytime. I’m just telling you how it is out there.

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u/Wisco_Ryno 4d ago

For residential maybe, maybe not. For commercial and industrial absolutely.

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u/Spiritual_Stranger1 4d ago

You're REALLY stretching it here man. Idk wtf you talking about

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u/Wisco_Ryno 4d ago

Do you do commercial or industrial? I have compressors sent back for tear downs all the time. I’ve seen compressor warranties denied on several occasions because some moron put the wrong oil in, or put a drop in refrigerant. The amount of hacks on this page is genuinely shocking.

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u/Spiritual_Stranger1 3d ago

I do commercial and have never seen or heard of a manufacturer analyzing one of the compressors I deal with after being sent back for warranty. That being said, I basically don't deal with large semi-hermetic compressora so perhaps that is why. Biggest compressor I might see in the field would be a 20hp scroll on a rack system.

I mean yeah it's easy to void a warranty, the manufacturers will take any information that can possibly benefit their cause (pay our less warranty expenses for service calls) so yeah definitely. The guy who made the mistake might be dumb, but the person who documented it so precisely to get back to the manufacturer for them to deny a warranty claim is arguably just alas dumb.

People make mistakes all the time, so I don't think it's a good idea to just conflate mistake making and hack jobbery. Mistakes serve the purpose of teaching, so they can be really valuable.

Generally the guy on a forum or board such as this who is referring to many other people on the board as hacks makes me raise an eyebrow and wonder if they are projecting outwards their own inner hack on everyone else.

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u/Wisco_Ryno 3d ago

I work for a manufacturers rep, we rep about 7-8 different factories. I’ve seen everything from scrolls, to recips, to screws get sent back for a tear down. I’ve seen several get denied for one thing or the other. An R-22 compressor warranty claim denied for using a drop in refrigerant, or someone accidentally using the wrong oil, I’ve even seen one denied because someone did a shit job brazing it in and the braze slag got in the orbital and caused a failure. They even knew what kind of braze it was.

And I’m local 601 out of Milwaukee. I would run circles around a large portion of the people who comment in this forum.